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    Tanro's Avatar
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    Tierna Lohunn
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 70

    Punished For wanting to get stuff done

    In a dungeon with a bad healer, so you vote dismiss them and it gets turned down.

    You abandon duty.

    Now you can't level for a half hour because there is nothing else to do in this game besides the same 5 dungeons to level.

    This game has a serious lack of leveling content for the people to do besides spam the same 5 dungeons over and over.

    Fates don't scale to the amount of people doing them. If there is 1 person it should be much quicker for that person to clear the fate by themselves.

    Beast Tribes barely amount to anything.

    Until the higher levels clan hunts barely amount to anything.

    There are no leves anymore.

    Not enough sidequests to level more than 2 jobs and thats being liberal with dungeon runs on one of them.

    So you either need to get rid of the 30 min penalty for people who don't want their time wasted, or give us shit to do level solo.
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    Natalie Hellfist
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    Fisher Lv 80
    If you left simply because one players ability didn't meet your standards, then it sounds like the penalty is working as intended.
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    Leon Reddas
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    Scholar Lv 77
    If there is a bad healer, perhaps you can help teach them to be better? Don't expect every single player to be perfect at the game, the duties brings all types of players whether new or hardcore so don't be so quick to jump ship otherwise the penalty is working as intended. Also consider making parties via the PF if you want to avoid randoms effecting your gameplay
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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Beast tribe's exp reward is pretty great for how easy the daily quests are though. Also I feel you on players that makes you want to just abandon the thing because it's pretty clear when they aren't paying attention at all. So since they don't want to play the game, then I don't want to play with them either. This is why I only ever queue up roulette as a tank to minimize the damage to myself and maximize it to the randos. Now they can finish their netflix tv episode in peace.
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It only takes two people to vote someone out of a dungeon. If you were the only person who took issue with the healer, well... majority rules. Suck it up and finish or eat the penalty.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    If you just silently tried to vote someone out without a discussion or anything, it seems like you deserved that penalty. If someone is acting up or causing problems, I'll tell them or ask them to do something different, and if they get worse or start fighting with me, then I'll consider voting them out. Punishing them without warning or giving them a chance to explain themselves means you get what you give.
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Patience is a warrior's greatest weapon.
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanro View Post
    Fates don't scale to the amount of people doing them. If there is 1 person it should be much quicker for that person to clear the fate by themselves.
    They do scale.

    Some are generally tougher to do solo, or without a Chocobo set as a healer/tank (and some are much tougher - the longer ones), but FATEs do scale based on the overall FATE activity in that zone. If you're one of the few, or the only one doing them, they are very much doable and the progress bar fills faster than if there is a group.

    It's not super fast - most will take between 5-10 minutes to solo, but it's an option (and your challenge log will tack on another XP reward).

    Now, I'm guessing since you mention that you don't have Leves that you're leveling something 60+.

    I literally just took a class from 60-70 without actually setting foot in a dungeon until the very end (not a fan of tanking for pugs personally, and my FC have largely been on holiday, and I wanted to get my DRK to 70 over the break). Did it 9 days with a single dungeon run, and that was with holiday family gatherings taking up the entirety of a couple of those days. Would have been faster had I actually FATE farmed, which brings me to...

    FATEs give anywhere from 150-250k xp, plus the approximately 500k for doing one in 5 different zones (can be super easy lowbie ones too) and another 500k or so for doing 10. Beast tribes, between the two at 60+, start at about 1.5 million xp (258k each at 61) and go up from there, and those take maybe 15 minutes to complete.

    Centurio Hunt seals? The first rank, which is certainly doable in the first couple levels following 60, is another 500k, quick and easy.

    Now this last one - I don't actually know if you can enter it when you're locked out of duty roulette from abandoning, but since part of your complaint is that we "only have the same 5 dungeons to level" I'm including it - Heaven on High. A quick run of that (solo if you want, which is easy enough) from 21-30 starts around 1.2 or 1.3 million xp, and caps around 1.8 million xp per run around 68 or 69.

    They've given you plenty to do to level solo. It's up to you to use it.
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I wonder what OP's definition of "bad healer" is.
    As healer, I met once a tank that raged at me because I weren't to keep his HP always fulled at 95%+

    (edit: and I saw him using potions when it was 80%)
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    If there is a bad healer, perhaps you can help teach them to be better? Don't expect every single player to be perfect at the game, the duties brings all types of players whether new or hardcore so don't be so quick to jump ship otherwise the penalty is working as intended. Also consider making parties via the PF if you want to avoid randoms effecting your gameplay
    Nope. They do not listen to you, at all. Don't bother. Sometimes they just decide to kick you instead! PF parties are just as bad, or even worse, and take longer for the same outcome!

    Also, "mentors" sometimes you try to give "advice" way too hard, and it comes off as very condescending.

    I just do PoTD/HoH to level anymore. I hate leveling in the first place, but at least HoH gives me hair I can sell, and pets. Floor 40-50 of PoTD is a complete nightmare, but if you can get past that then the groups at 50-60 are generally at +99/99 and are there specifically to level, so about 99% of the time you won't have a problem there.

    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    I wonder what OP's definition of "bad healer" is.
    As healer, I met once a tank that raged at me because I weren't to keep his HP always fulled at 95%+

    (edit: and I saw him using potions when it was 80%)
    I'll give you an example from yesterday's roulette. Aurum Vale, healer is healing themselves at full half the time. I'm a red mage at 20% health because the healer decides they will only focus heal (if they actually heal someone other than themselves) the tank the entire encounter. Also, dies on the first boss. Oh, and was eating the tank's fruit, so the tank had to pull the boss across the boss room to find a fruit.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 12-30-2018 at 10:26 PM.

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