I liked Eureka

[Reynhart]

Took me at least 2-3 hours each time trying to find 3-4 people to do challenge logs with.

You can easily do most of the challenge log solo by going back to Anemos. For ashkins and sprites, two people are enough to kill level 20-21 targets.

[EaMett]

(Double post) and to answer that. I’m 28. Not going back to anemos. Unless you mean there’s a way to cheese the challenge log but I thought it was level gated?

[HiroesX81]

This is a good thread

Yeah ive enjoyed all of Eureka to be honest. its made doing the relic really enjoyable this time. So far my favorite is definitely Pyros. I cant wait for Hydatos. The memes born in Pyros have also been very entertaining. Having an empty instance is just as benificial as having a full one too. if people were more supportive of this content wed get an even better version in 5.0. Honestly if they go back to the old ways in 5.0 I'd abandon the relic outright. This has been really fun for me. I want to do 2 more relics here soon.

[HiroesX81]

Thank god, I thought I was the only one who thought this.

Also enjoyed it! I didnt find it hard at all. Sure it took time but I found the climb up pretty rewarding tbh. Back when people gave up and went away I was casually completing my relic and got to Pyros pretty early. I dont go hardcore on it, just 2 hrs a day maybe 4 a week and Im keepin up pretty well. been enjoying shout chat in Pyros too. Cant wait for Hydatos

[HiroesX81]

The problem is that you need to slog through Pagos to access Pyros. Delete Pagos and Eureka would be okay (not great but not terrible) to most of the players. People play through Anemos and just stop at Pagos.

I wouldnt worry about that. Theyre gonna buff/nerf Pagos soon.

[Reynhart]

Unless you mean there’s a way to cheese the challenge log but I thought it was level gated?

The challenge log is scaled to your real level, but valid targets are determined by your current level. So, clearing it by killing monsters in Anemos while synced lvl20 will give you the same reward as killing monsters of your level in Pagos.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Yeah, I said it.

I had fun and thought the items you got for the effort you put in were pretty good.
It also had much more social interaction than most areas of the game I've seen.

Was it perfect? No.
But what is?

I would have put Anemos last because I thought it was the best of the three.
Plus, I'm getting a little tired of snow covered areas.

But all in all, I thought Eureka was good.

Come at me bro.

I agree that Anemos was the best so far. The area is gorgeous compared to Pagos/Pyros. The tornados/crazy trees/plants in the water make this area my favorite by a long shot. Really hope Hydratos brings some creativity that we saw in Anemos.

I have a lot of fun running Eureka. My most hated part was the light grinding not being shared by the whole party, but being RNG for each and every party member. That really demoralized a lot of my party members in Pagos. But overall, Eureka is the only content people are chatting in anymore. Like someone said before me, most of the people i see in game do MSQ and decorate their houses and barely touch any content in this game, but we dont see people yelling at houses for not being interesting.

So while this content is not for everyone, i see TONS of people engaging with it and I think the outrage online is a bit exaggerated.

[LaylaTsarra]

Currently stuck in Pagos. Took me at least 2-3 hours each time trying to find 3-4 people to do challenge logs with. Then I need to go through the logs which takes time too because there’s going to be level descrepencies between players. It’s a nightmare and not one you can break up into 1h sessions either. You need to sit down and plan at least 3-4h straight in game to get anything done.

NM train is hardely an option as well since they spawn way too infrequently and the aetherites are so high level that the NMs are usually dead (or you are) before you can even get to them.

Gating relic weapons behind content that turns stale once the majority of the crowd have rolled over it is horrible HORRIBLE design. And this is coming from someone who actually enjoys this kind of content.

So disgusted by the pain it’s caused I just gave up. If i still care enough about the game when relics catch up to current BiS then I might try my hand at it again. If not I’ll give it a shot when it’s fully nerfed for glam if there’s anything I like enough.

Why would you do challenge in Pagos. Much easier to do challenge in Anemos given it's level synced and there are tons of groups there doing challenge. Doing challenge on tuesday reset is when there are the most people in zone getting their logs done. Challenge is somewhat easier in Pagos once you've hit 29/30 and do NM prep. Prepping Louhi will get you your ashkins as well when you are high enough. It's not all about level other than getting the aethers and a mount but then you still have to get the cyrstals and the frosteds.

My earlier post outlines what I do when leveling my toons in Pagos and I have 8 characters and they are all in Pyros at the moment. Obviously the content isn't for everyone but Pagos requires knowing how to position yourself for NM's and doing NM prep where possible to keep busy and be productive. Anyone trying to run North with the types of mobs there which are all high level and motion sensitive with sleeping dragons will not allow you to get to northern NM's because people won't wait for you.

Relative to the poplution in the zones they all seem to be still very well populated. There are still may 50's there doing multiple weapons. Weekends seem to be the best times and late evenings. I get conflicting reports about whether the nerf is 4.5 or 4.55, guess we'll find out for sure with the patch notes next week.

[Deceptus]

You can easily do most of the challenge log solo by going back to Anemos. For ashkins and sprites, two people are enough to kill level 20-21 targets.

You can solo the sprites and Ashkin in anemos as well. The snow sprites up north are pretty easy and the coffinkeepers at 20 are doable but you need eureka potions and good damage.

[Alucard135]

THANK YOU.
I'm so tired of reading this all over again.

You're not the only one lol. And not only that, I'm tired of hearing about Eureka is bad because it's filled with grind and RNG and prefer ARR and HW relic quests. It's like people forgot about Atma, luminous crystals and light grind + the horrible RNG in some of those. The RNG needed to get the relic in Erueka is really not bad at all (Pagos not included lol). If we're gonna talk about the other items' RNG from bunny fates and NM boss drops for 6th magicite, then those are optional items and not needed for the relic, since a lot has been saying if it wasn't for the relic, they wouldn't have done this.

If we want the content to get better, we should identify issues that can drastically improve on the content. Just shouting RNG and grind is not gonna work because let's face it..There will always be grind and RNG in MMOs and there are people who like to grind like that (I don't, but just take a look at EX farm parties). For me personally I narrowed down the issues to four points:
1- Being an instanced zone: You can't do anything else while being there. And I get why they had to do that, but it would be nice if they can make it an open world map.
2- No level syncing: This would help a lot of new players wanting to group up with others but can't now due to the level gap and impact on EXP gain (This is probably the biggest reason why some can't find a party as they said in this thread).
3- No extra stuff to do in the zone, such as quests or points for exploration of dangerous zones
4- Losing EXP when dying: If there was no penalty in dying you'd see more people out there and exploring instead of just parking near aetherytes cuz it's safer.