"Just use True North problem solved"

[Syrus_Draco]

This is mostly a rant, but I hate how people always tell melees "JUST USE TRUE NORTH YA DINGUS" as if it's the answer to every positional problem.

Yeah True North is amazing for allow positional procs where we are forced into situations where we cannot get our positionals, which happens a lot! Everyone seems to think it's on a 15 second CD and it's always available, and if not use it whenever melee ask for an adjustment.

Folks don't realize 1) 150 sec CD 2) Melees plan out specific spots when to use TN during the fight. Being such a long CD we have limited uses of it during the fight.

To be clear, I'm upset at True North, I'm just upset that tanks/mages always yell at melee to use True North for every mechanic, as if we weren't using it already to optimized our positional procs.

[Seraphor]

I just dont even use True North. I figure if you have to learn to use positionals 95% of the time, may as well learn to use then 100% of the time. Just another role skill too many that doesnt fit on my xhotbar.

[Karshan]

I just dont even use True North. I figure if you have to learn to use positionals 95% of the time, may as well learn to use then 100% of the time. Just another role skill too many that doesnt fit on my xhotbar.

"may as well learn to use then 100% of the time." He's not talking about that at all. Sometimes mechanics don't allow you to do your positionnals. So true north is here tohelp. But as he says it's one cheese for 15 seconds every 150 seconds. So not there all the time.

I agree with him that sometimes non melees underestimate how much of a pain it is and do not seek adjustment. Like leaving a SW or SE spot to the melee guys does a great deal. Or if you have no range, have a tank / healer deal with a mechanic including heavy movement, their DPS is 2/3 or half of a DPS so doens't hurt raidDPS that much and casters/melees would be very much obliged (like level checker in O11S, if you don't have a range you put the 2 heals, don't even talk to me about putting the black mage or the monk there)

[Doozer]

I don't really bother with True North most of the time because every tank I seem to encounter wants to spin enemies in a circle for the entire fight. It's like they think they can dodge every attack by making them dizzy. I can only make up for the lack of rear attacking with True North so much. Why bother.

[KageTokage]

I feel like True North should have a lower cooldown.

Melee don't even have any tangible benefits over ranged to compensate for needing to account for positionals.

[Kalise]

I feel like True North should have a lower cooldown.

Melee don't even have any tangible benefits over ranged to compensate for needing to account for positionals.

Yeah, I feel that with the number of encounters where positionals are difficult or impossible to use, True North could really do with a lower cooldown.

Heck, slap some bonus damage on to it too to help make up for the DPS loss caused by the downtime of not being able to benefit from positionals while it's on CD. Not anything too drastic, but like 5%-10% or something.

[Seraphor]

Yeah, I feel that with the number of encounters where positionals are difficult or impossible to use, True North could really do with a lower cooldown.

Heck, slap some bonus damage on to it too to help make up for the DPS loss caused by the downtime of not being able to benefit from positionals while it's on CD. Not anything too drastic, but like 5%-10% or something.

Or, make it cost a significant amount of TP/whatever-replaces-TP.
If bypassing positionals was as costly as AoE spam, or perhaps moreso, then it would work on a low or even no cooldown.

[Karshan]

Or, make it cost a significant amount of TP/whatever-replaces-TP.
If bypassing positionals was as costly as AoE spam, or perhaps moreso, then it would work on a low or even no cooldown.

Now that's an interesting idea.
Given aside death, TP regeneration is generally unneeded, it would be interesting to regain some ressource management and having a way to cheese for short periods of time to deal with the mechanics requiring you NOT to be in adequate positions.

[ChaoticCrimson]

I'm primarily a caster, and even I know it's pretty much the main tank's job to keep the boss positioned so the melee can do their jobs as best as they can.

[Syrus_Draco]

It's hard to judge if True North should have a lower CD. As a melee main sure I would have a bias opinion and say it should be lower than 150 seconds, BUUUT part of the challenge is figuring out creative ways in nailing those positionals, like during Omega's Star/Larboard, where a little bit of the rear is exposed for rear procs.

While it does suck to be forced into situations where we can't do positionals, I think it helps balance out the numbers to where the devs want folks to clear. It pushes folks to go for high skill plays, for lack of a better term.

True North is a blessing for melee, but other jobs see it as the end all problem solver. BLM gets special treatment to keep it still as possible, melees ask for adjustments and everyone is >;C