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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Then you can play many free-to-play titles. They are designed to look good, which is their major selling point. And mostly nothing else.
    And they usually don't last long.

    I prefer a story-heavy mmo that keeps me invested in the characters and lore. Which exactly works for FFXIV.
    What you're replying to isn't my stance on the subject (if the subject is story vs. graphics, story wins every time in my book. I'm with you 100%), but I was trying to give an example of how using a story vs. graphics argument isn't related to the discussion. A request for better graphics doesn't have any effect on the story. If anything, other graphic components of the game could be effected. For example, maybe if they have to go back and remake old textures they'll have less time to spend on new ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanro View Post
    Its 2018 why is there a Mayan Pyramid on Hien's coat?

    Why does the collar on Asahi's coat look like atari 2600 graphics?

    Can we please get an HD texture pack option. Like, I shouldn't be read my computer monitor with my hands in cutscenes.
    Why does someone state that its 2018 if the game is at least 5 years old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Why does someone state that its 2018 if the game is at least 5 years old?
    To be fair even during the actual reboot launch most of the textures were pretty subpar for the time. On top of that compared to its 1.0 counterpart the game has drastically taken a hit in terms of the visual department. Thankfully they did think ahead and stop adding an unholy amount of polygon to certain models but seem to have just done it across the board on top Yoshida admitting that textures were done at a low resolution. I think the reason people ignored it then was mostly due to the fact that they were hoping that once the overall reboot had a solid foundation they'd go back and look at some of the more simple stuff such as visuals and QoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle_Trinidad View Post
    To be fair even during the actual reboot launch most of the textures were pretty subpar for the time. On top of that compared to its 1.0 counterpart the game has drastically taken a hit in terms of the visual department. Thankfully they did think ahead and stop adding an unholy amount of polygon to certain models but seem to have just done it across the board on top Yoshida admitting that textures were done at a low resolution. I think the reason people ignored it then was mostly due to the fact that they were hoping that once the overall reboot had a solid foundation they'd go back and look at some of the more simple stuff such as visuals and QoL.
    That may be all true but still, this game is one of the older ones and i don't expect it to have graphics like a game that has been published in 2017 or 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    These things aren't mutually exclusive. This sort of argument is used a lot, but it's the same logic can be used to fit any opinion. "I'd rather have them work on HD textures than wasting development time on the story" is just a valid of an argument from someone else. Both the story and the textures can be well developed at the same time and they very likely have little or no development overlap. I think its unlikely the developers responsible for textures are the same developers writing the story.
    No wonder FFXIV is pretty but empty!
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    Last edited by Lunalepsy; 12-29-2018 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    What you're replying to isn't my stance on the subject (if the subject is story vs. graphics, story wins every time in my book. I'm with you 100%), but I was trying to give an example of how using a story vs. graphics argument isn't related to the discussion. A request for better graphics doesn't have any effect on the story. If anything, other graphic components of the game could be effected. For example, maybe if they have to go back and remake old textures they'll have less time to spend on new ones.
    While this is true of course... even "I would rather xxx than yyy." isn't wholly inaccurate. Even if the teams are different (which they are), resources are finite. You have a budget of $XXX, and in that instance adding more "here" can cut from "there".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    While this is true of course... even "I would rather xxx than yyy." isn't wholly inaccurate. Even if the teams are different (which they are), resources are finite. You have a budget of $XXX, and in that instance adding more "here" can cut from "there".
    I agree, you and Catwho are also right about how a budget can be pulled from anything. I guess the heart of what I'm saying is that we can't shut down every suggestion with, "That's not good, because it might take away from this other thing." I think a more productive discussion is basing an idea's merits on its own and not how it theoretically could effect some other unrelated aspect of the game.
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    I am not shure we even need a hires texture remake. If we zoom in on our own faces/gear i see no pixelation. So i would guess they are fine.
    Only in some cutscenes we see bad pixelation on closeup gear. My guess is they have a bug that needs to be fixed. That or some NPC gear is made lower res then our own gear. If they then decide to have a closeup in a cutscene i find it a very bad choice not to make the npc gear higher res.
    Second place we could use higher res textures is the ground in some places.

    To sum it up we could use some higher res texture in some select places but we dont need them in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Why does someone state that its 2018 if the game is at least 5 years old?
    Cause it's a game in 2018 with a expansion that came out in 2017 has many textures look worse then games came out on PS3 at launch, I can look past ARR but Stormblood having such terrible textures is ridiculous.
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    Some of the clothing textures are pretty awful especially on larger character models like mine. The same might look passable on a Lala or Miquote but pixelated to hell on a Roe. That’s not okay.
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