Gating interesting content behind artificial side leveling

[MariaArvana]

I don't think that s what was said. It was said that the complexity of the systems implemented would rise with each eureka areas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tion_on_pyros/

"第4弾ではパブリックダンジョン的なものもある
In the 4th installment there'll be something akin to a public dungeon"

This was from an interview nearly 3 months ago; the idea of a public dungeon has been around since well before Pyros launched, iirc. Arguments can be made as to how set in stone it was, but the idea and developer interest was surely there to give hints at expecting such an idea.

[Stanelis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tion_on_pyros/

"第4弾ではパブリックダンジョン的なものもある
In the 4th installment there'll be something akin to a public dungeon"

This was from an interview nearly 3 months ago; the idea of a public dungeon has been around since well before Pyros launched, iirc. Arguments can be made as to how set in stone it was, but the idea and developer interest was surely there to give hints at expecting such an idea.

Yes but what is being presented here is totally different. It's a public dungeon, inside Eureka. Not the whole hydros, just one part of it. One of the main content flaw of Eureka is the fact that the content can be zerged down, which is adressed by this design, that is very FFXI like. Then why do we have this design only in the last installment of Eureka after 3 very boring iteration of said content, that are nothing like it ?

then it doesn't matter if they get a shiny carrot at the end or not, does it?

Last time I checked we were customers paying to take part in content. I don't really get this "carrot" mentality.

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"Boring" is subjective, some people really enjoy it.

I'm in a FC of FFXI veteran who completed all endgame content up to TOAU when it was relevant (absolute virtue aside, obviously), myself included. And absolutely no one in this crowd find Eureka to be well designed or interesting. Then please explain to me who anemos, pagos and hydros were intended to because I'm very interested in the reply. From our perspective it s just old fate farming like in 2.X in areas slightly harder to navigate with some FFXI "fan service".

[Elladie]

I'm in a FC of FFXI veteran who completed all endgame content up to TOAU when it was relevant (absolute virtue aside, obviously), myself included. And absolutely no one in this crowd find Eureka to be well designed or interesting. Then please explain to me who anemos, pagos and hydros were intended to because I'm very interested in the reply. From our perspective it s just old fate farming like in 2.X in areas slightly harder to navigate with some FFXI "fan service".

I'm also a founder member of an FC begun by XI players who met there - oh my goodness - fifteen years ago, and we have thoroughly enjoyed Eureka from the start. Yeah the afk-ers are annoying, especially when they all start complaining because no one waited for them to come all the way from town. But what you're dismissing as 'fan-service' (this is a bad thing?) we've loved and had a lot of fun with. So please don't assume you're speaking for other people. I understand that a lot of folks haven't enjoyed Eureka, I'm really sorry you haven't had the fun with it I've had.

Personally I can't understand why anyone does roulettes and I loathe the duty finder. I think the negative effect it's had on the community outweighs any benefits. But that's just my opinion, so I don't make threads insisting that the duty finder has to go, because if I hate it, so must everyone else, right? I do dungeons because sometimes I have to in order to progress story. I don't enjoy it but if I want to experience the story, I have no choice. If you want to experience the 'public dungeon' at the conclusion of Eureka, do the content needed to get there