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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Well said, it is clear they should be doing more.
    More on what tho? So you want them to say buck China costumers and give those once exclusive items to us for free. Even tho the only reason we have them is because people begged se to get them to us? If it's about anything else aren't they are ready doing stuff? It's not like they can flip a switch and boom instant improvement. Saying they need to do more without context is silly at best. We don't know what they are doing and to say well this company does it means nothing if we have no context to the inner workings of either company. And last time I checked we don't.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    More on what tho? So you want them to say buck China costumers and give those once exclusive items to us for free. Even tho the only reason we have them is because people begged se to get them to us? If it's about anything else aren't they are ready doing stuff? It's not like they can flip a switch and boom instant improvement. Saying they need to do more without context is silly at best. We don't know what they are doing and to say well this company does it means nothing if we have no context to the inner workings of either company. And last time I checked we don't.
    I think besides the OP, who retracted his complaint about a dozen pages ago once he realized why they cost what they cost, no one is really expressing a huge problem with the imported Mog Station items.
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  3. #233
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    I'm prefacing this post with the disclaimer that you can spend your disposable income as you see fit. I can't tell you how to run your life and finances. What I do want, is for you all to be informed consumers as we go into the new year. As of 1/1/19, this is how much things cost added up on Mogstation:
    Character- $704.60
    Main Scenario Progression- ARR: $18 ARR/Heavensward: $25
    Level Boost- $325 for levels, $9x1 $25.50x3 $40.50x5 Retainer levelers
    Fantasia- $10x1 $28x3 $45x5
    Mounts- $303.57 This is assuming you use only one character.
    Minions- $121.99 Again, assuming you only use one character.
    Eternal Bond- $20x1 $10x1 How fancy are you?
    Seasonal (Women's)- $97
    Seasonal (Men's)- $97
    Seasonal (Unisex)- $225
    Housing- $502.50
    Dyes- $150xpots of 10 @ 20 colors $20xpots of 1 @ 20 colors
    Emotes- $108.50
    Barding- $64
    Orchestration Rolls- $66


    All $2745.66 @ high end for a single character. So, give or take around $3k if you went hard to the wall with it all.
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  4. #234
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusbees View Post
    I'm prefacing this post with the disclaimer that you can spend your disposable income as you see fit. I can't tell you how to run your life and finances. What I do want, is for you all to be informed consumers as we go into the new year. As of 1/1/19, this is how much things cost added up on Mogstation:
    Character- $704.60
    Main Scenario Progression- ARR: $18 ARR/Heavensward: $25
    Level Boost- $325 for levels, $9x1 $25.50x3 $40.50x5 Retainer levelers
    Fantasia- $10x1 $28x3 $45x5
    Mounts- $303.57 This is assuming you use only one character.
    Minions- $121.99 Again, assuming you only use one character.
    Eternal Bond- $20x1 $10x1 How fancy are you?
    Seasonal (Women's)- $97
    Seasonal (Men's)- $97
    Seasonal (Unisex)- $225
    Housing- $502.50
    Dyes- $150xpots of 10 @ 20 colors $20xpots of 1 @ 20 colors
    Emotes- $108.50
    Barding- $64
    Orchestration Rolls- $66


    All $2745.66 @ high end for a single character. So, give or take around $3k if you went hard to the wall with it all.
    Ok tell me who would ever buy everything on mogstation?? Counting them all together is pretty pointless besides keeping busy for a while doing it if you are bored.Certainly the colour potions, how many would you count?
    And why would you buy a leveling boost for every class? Nobody in his right mind would ever do that.
    Would you buy 2 Eternal bond options for a single character? why?
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  5. #235
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    There are some people hardcore enough that would do it.

    The point is, these are microtransactions that add up over time and they hit your wallet, whether you realize it or not.
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    Last edited by cactusbees; 01-01-2019 at 06:49 PM. Reason: Bored? You've obviously never tried to bore a preschooler out to sleep!

  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    Ok tell me who would ever buy everything on mogstation?? Counting them all together is pretty pointless besides keeping busy for a while doing it if you are bored.Certainly the colour potions, how many would you count?
    And why would you buy a leveling boost for every class? Nobody in his right mind would ever do that.
    Would you buy 2 Eternal bond options for a single character? why?
    Chances are, if you have to question if there is someone who would do it, there is someone who already has, or will do it. The chances are really low, but still.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusbees View Post
    I'm prefacing this post with the disclaimer that you can spend your disposable income as you see fit. I can't tell you how to run your life and finances. What I do want, is for you all to be informed consumers as we go into the new year. As of 1/1/19, this is how much things cost added up on Mogstation:
    Character- $704.60
    Main Scenario Progression- ARR: $18 ARR/Heavensward: $25
    Level Boost- $325 for levels, $9x1 $25.50x3 $40.50x5 Retainer levelers
    Fantasia- $10x1 $28x3 $45x5
    Mounts- $303.57 This is assuming you use only one character.
    Minions- $121.99 Again, assuming you only use one character.
    Eternal Bond- $20x1 $10x1 How fancy are you?
    Seasonal (Women's)- $97
    Seasonal (Men's)- $97
    Seasonal (Unisex)- $225
    Housing- $502.50
    Dyes- $150xpots of 10 @ 20 colors $20xpots of 1 @ 20 colors
    Emotes- $108.50
    Barding- $64
    Orchestration Rolls- $66


    All $2745.66 @ high end for a single character. So, give or take around $3k if you went hard to the wall with it all.
    now for the cost amount of all the stuff you need off the optional items section
    $0
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  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrestia View Post
    They’re not in line with the rest of the industry and are incurring much higher costs due to poor choices. If that’s the case, how long is it justifiable for us to continue paying for those poor choices? The datacenter move they performed for Stormblood was undeniably expensive and difficult, but there are still significant enough lag, stability, and DoS problems for a lot of players, and we’re still being denied basic requests because “server limitations.” Now, they plan to perform a logical reshuffling of the servers in the hopes of social engineering the players into being their load balancing solution. Remember how well that worked with Road to 60 and all the perks for transferring to vacant servers? Yeah not so well.
    I'm really starting to think the "DDoS" excuse is starting to wear thin and it's more likely a server issue they're trying to hide.

    Because FFXIV seems go get "Dos-ed" pretty frequenlty if it's true.

    I've found whenever I'm troubleshooting a problem it generally follows the following logic:

    Once is an issue. Try to fix it asap if it's vital to operations.
    Twice is a coincidence. Look for similarities.
    Three times is a pattern that really needs looked at. It's time to start digging deep and figure out what's really going on.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I'm really starting to think the "DDoS" excuse is starting to wear thin and it's more likely a server issue they're trying to hide.
    I mean, in TYOOL Two Thousand and Nineteen, these are one and the same, at least for a company large enough to justify buying their own servers and leasing datacentre space. DoS protection is the responsibility of the service provider (note: not Internet Service Provider. Service as in the game service). If you have a DoS problem or are launching a service that may have one, you rack up one of the commercially available load balancer/security appliances and you do something about it. Shirking the blame to your upstream provider is done by lazy network admins pulling one over on their uneducated bosses or companies that don't care about their clients.
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    now for the cost amount of all the stuff you need off the optional items section
    $0
    Well, yes. That's why it's called the optional items.
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