Combo Action Button

[NocturniaUzuki]

As a controller user, I'll throw in that although I don't use all 48 buttons, in order to make my hotbars have logical organization, I need more than 48 slots. Otherwise I end up putting random healing skills in the middle of a DPS section of my bar just because I have no space.

[Seraphor]

As a controller user, I'll throw in that although I don't use all 48 buttons, in order to make my hotbars have logical organization, I need more than 48 slots. Otherwise I end up putting random healing skills in the middle of a DPS section of my bar just because I have no space.

On what job do you need 48 slots?
I never use more than 32, and three of those are sprint, LB and mount.

[Mansion]

On what job do you need 48 slots?
I never use more than 32, and three of those are sprint, LB and mount.

On AST I technically need more than 32 Slots. But the only skills I use that are outside of my 32 slots in a fight would be Largesse and the LB. The "card cancel" skills are not needed there, and neither are the sects.
PLD is the same, there are a few things that don't fit the 32 slots.

(one tip for Sprint on controller, assign a joystick click button to Macro 99 and put Sprint as that macro. It saved me countless times)

[Seraphor]

On AST I technically need more than 32 Slots. But the only skills I use that are outside of my 32 slots in a fight would be Largesse and the LB. The "card cancel" skills are not needed there, and neither are the sects.
PLD is the same, there are a few things that don't fit the 32 slots.

(one tip for Sprint on controller, assign a joystick click button to Macro 99 and put Sprint as that macro. It saved me countless times)

AST only has 23 unique skills once you discount the undraw skills.
Only 5 essential role skills, which I suppose you could stretch to 8 by including the situational Eye for an Eye, Surecast and Rescue. But you've just said Largesse was 'outside' of that so I'm assuming you're not counting situational role skills.

I might try to make use of that sprint thing though, if I can get used to it, as I've had sprint on the same space on every job since I started playing.

[Gralna]

I'll have to agree with Daniolaut, I use a gamepad on PC and have yet to run into button bloat issues. Almost all of my jobs fit onto one crossbar + expanded crossbars, even Sch and I don't run into issue of mixing healing/dps utility.. I have enough space for everything to be neatly organized.

If you're playing with default gamepad settings though it can feel extremely limiting, I have a lot of filters on for combat/non-combat, for targetting and crossbar rotation as well as some crossbars that don't show up at all unless I use R+Dpad. There are a lot of tools to customize gamepad to your playstyle, just need to mess around with them a bit.

[Seraphor]

If you're playing with default gamepad settings though it can feel extremely limiting, I have a lot of filters on for combat/non-combat, for targetting and crossbar rotation as well as some crossbars that don't show up at all unless I use R+Dpad. There are a lot of tools to customize gamepad to your playstyle, just need to mess around with them a bit.

This, there's a lot of tools you can use between expanded and double xhotbars, hiding certain hotbars in combat, and displaying 'hidden' skills on the linear hotbars.

I have xhotbar 1 as my main combat hotbar, with all my main skills.
Expanded hotbar L>R has stuff like sprint, LB, mount, and agility or stance type skills, like peloton, or darkside, etc.
Expanded R>L has misc cooldowns and role skills (I have a separate linear hotbar to display those that have cooldowns I want to keep an eye on)
Then my xhotbar 2 is set to only be displayed when not I combat, and has all my job changes, and a couple extra things.

That’s all I use, and I never have a problem.

For example, AST, each section clockwise from top:
Xhotbar 1:
Gravity, Sleeve Draw, Malefic, Combust | Royal Road, Redraw, Draw, Hold | Lightspeed, Ascend, Essential Dignity, Minor Arcana | A. Benefic, A. Helios, Benefic, Helios
Expanded R>L:
Collective Unconsciousness*, Earthly Star*, Esuna, Celestial Opposition* | Largesse, Synastry*, Time Dilation*, Lucid Dreaming
Expanded L>R:
Mount, LB, Ghysal Greens, Protect | Sprint, Nocturnal Sect, Swiftcast*, Diurnal Sect

*duplicated on a display only mini hotbar to keep an eye on cooldowns.