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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    Not all of us want to use more than 3 hotbars during combat that we quick access with L2/R2, L2+R2/R2+L2 and R2+R2/L2+L2 and some jobs do fill 3 hard bars up a bit much. Some of us do not want to suffer through the awkwardness of scrolling through crossbars with R1 or R1+Directional/Face button.
    No one has to.

    You absolutely cannot fill up 3 hot bars with the current number of actions.
    (edit except for SCH/SMN including all role abilities + all pet actions.)

    I dont know what all those buttom combos mean in your comment but it sounds like you arent doing something correctly. I only press R1 and R2 and L2. Thats it...
    and ...
    Square, Triangle, Circle... thats it...

    like most of the time.. thats it.

    I also never press R1 and Directional buttons. Ever.

    I also use all actions, and have access to all actions.

    I also also only use 3 hot bars, and a 4th "role ability" hotbar that I get to by pressing R1 plus Square. thats. it. R1, S > T > C, thats it!

    Its not confusing. its super simple. and I have lotttsss of empty space. Using only 3 hot bars.


    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    And yet it does, though it has gotten a lot better since ARR/HW. Back when Stone, Malefic etc and their different levels took up their own keybind space.

    Even now there are abilities that serve no purpose being their own separate actions. Impact, for example, shouldn't have to be a separate spell on the hotbar, just bundle it into Jolt II.

    Just because it can fit on your bars doesn't mean it isn't bloat. Having an ability/skill for the sake of it, is bloat.
    Interesting how you responded to me without saying what the magic number is. I specifically asked what people consider the magic number.

    So youre saying you can have 500 abilities, so long as they all are useful its not ability bloat? So long as they ... arent an ability for the sake of it? I disagree completely with that statement.

    If you arent saying that, and the number of abilities is the problem, I would ask that you say what the magic number is. Keep in mind that level 30, which most players find boring, is about 10-15 actions or thereabout. Level 50 is 26 actions/abilities.
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 01-29-2019 at 09:49 AM.