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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Maybe an actually functional version of that Freeze spell you keep insulting people for possibly having on their bars?



    So, we should fix spells the spells that currently make space an non-issue (because, to take your advice, just don't bind them), but not also make space for them after doing so, despite it costing absolutely nothing to make that space?

    You can have both, you realize? You can have functional abilities and a non-redundant button-space. They are not mutually exclusive.
    Consolidating combo's would do nothing for casters like BLM who don't have combos.
    And BLM doesn't have button bloat anyway, as useless as Freeze is, it's not wasting space on my hotbar. I still manage to have my expanded xhotbars almost entirely composed of role actions, that I still almost never use in their entirety. I can only say that for BLM and RDM, every other job I find myself having to choose around 3-5 role actions to hotbar.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 01-23-2019 at 09:37 PM.

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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Consolidating combo's would do nothing for casters like BLM who don't have combos.
    There was no mention of "combos" there...

    Not all mutually exclusive actions are combos. Fell Cleave and Inner Beast aren't, yet they're mutually exclusive. Fire IV and Blizzard IV aren't, yet they're mutually exclusive. RDM could, with zero loss to player control, consolidate 2-3 slots (>ZH>RD; Jolt II>Impulse). BLM can consolidate 2 (F4<>B4; LL>BtL).

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    And BLM doesn't have button bloat anyway, as useless as Freeze is, it's not wasting space on my hotbar. I still manage to have my expanded xhotbars almost entirely composed of role actions, that I still almost never use in their entirety. I can only say that for BLM and RDM, every other job I find myself having to choose around 3-5 role actions to hotbar.
    That others jobs are more poorly or bloated-ly made doesn't mean an otherwise well-designed job has to remain laden with what design inefficiencies (again, nothing to do with gameplay, only redundant button-space due to mutually exclusive abilities) it has, to only be considered after all other jobs are paired down in button count (where that may, in their case, require changes to actual gameplay).
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-23-2019 at 11:06 PM.