Combo Action Button

[Rongway]

Combos don't need to be reduced to single buttons, but actions that have specific conditions, or paired actions that are mutually exclusive, should be merged.

The following could be consolidated into single buttons:

Ley Lines → Between The Lines (conditional)
Blizzard IV → Fire IV (mutually exclusive) or Enochian → Blizzard IV (conditional)
Dreadwyrm Trance → Deathflare (conditional)
Summon Bahamut → Enkindle Bahamut (conditional)
Wind Blade → Burning Strike → Rock Buster (mutually exclusive) [note: pet basic]
Shockwave → Crimson Cyclone → Landslide (mutually exclusive) [note: pet interrupt]
Aerial Slash → Flaming Crush → Mountain Buster (mutually exclusive) [note: pet AoE]
Contagion → Radiant Shield → Earthen Ward (mutually exclusive) [note: pet support]
Eos Pet Actions → Selene Pet Actions (mutually exclusive)
The Wanderer's Minuet → Pitch Perfect (conditional)
Gauss Barrel → Barrel Stabilizer (conditional)
Jump → Mirage Dive (semiconditional)
Fang and Claw → Wheeling Thrust (mutually exclusive)
Hide → Trick Attack (conditional)
Third Eye → Merciful Eyes (conditional)

There might be some I missed.

Jolt II → Impact would be nice, but the arguments that can be made for it are the same arguments that can be made for consolidating skillchains into single buttons, so it doesn't really belong in the list.

[Rowde]

Combos don't need to be reduced to single buttons, but actions that have specific conditions, or paired actions that are mutually exclusive, should be merged.

The following could be consolidated into single buttons:

Hide → Trick Attack (conditional)

This one won't work since TA can be used after Suiton, but Suiton doesn't apply Hide. Suiton let's you use TA without Hide.


I do like this train of thought because this "conditional" change of abilities is already utilized in PvE, but only by a handful of jobs.

The buttons for WAR's Fell Cleave/Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone/Decimation automatically changed depending on what Stance they're in.

DRG's Geirskogul automatically changes to Nastrond when LotD is activated.

RDM Enhanced versions of melee change automatically when enough mana is stored.

SMN Ruin II changes automatically when the proc is activated.

[Rongway]

The following could be consolidated into single buttons:

Hide → Trick Attack (conditional)

This one won't work since TA can be used after Suiton, but Suiton doesn't apply Hide. Suiton let's you use TA without Hide.

Sure, but also, Hide can't be used in combat, so I think it would be okay to change the Hide Button to Trick Attack whether under the affect of Hide or Suiton.

The cases where you can currently do Suiton-> (EndCombat) -> Hide to reset Jutsu timer -> Trick Attack are limited to extremely close trash pulls, so replacing the Hide button with Trick Attack while Suiton is active wouldn't affect raids at all.

[Brightamethyst]

Combos don't need to be reduced to single buttons, but actions that have specific conditions, or paired actions that are mutually exclusive, should be merged.

The following could be consolidated into single buttons:

*List*

Agreed. While in generally they really need to consolidate, if not outright delete a number of skills, this would be a great start. It's honestly baffling than some of those listed don't already work that way. The system is already in place and working for some conditional or mutually exclusive skills. Why not just do it for all of them?

[Sigma-Astra]

Combos don't need to be reduced to single buttons, but actions that have specific conditions, or paired actions that are mutually exclusive, should be merged.

The following could be consolidated into single buttons:

Ley Lines → Between The Lines (conditional)
Blizzard IV → Fire IV (mutually exclusive) or Enochian → Blizzard IV (conditional)

There is literally no good reason to reduce the BLM rotation like this. There's no button bloat with the job at all and the rotation literally isn't even that hard to place efficiently on your hotbar or complex at all to understand and follow through.

Why.

[Reynhart]

There's no button bloat with the job at all and the rotation literally isn't even that hard to place efficiently on your hotbar or complex at all to understand and follow through.

Button bloat is not the only reason why you should design the job smarter. Having to place mutualy exclusive skills on different slots is stupid, especially after they fixed exactly that on WAR.

[Sigma-Astra]

Button bloat is not the only reason why you should design the job smarter. Having to place mutualy exclusive skills on different slots is stupid, especially after they fixed exactly that on WAR.

If you have issues with Black Mage hotbar management, then I'm going to assume your bars are trainwrecks because you already don't know what you're doing to begin with.

[Reynhart]

If you have issues with Black Mage hotbar management, then I'm going to assume your bars are trainwrecks because you already don't know what you're doing to begin with.

Then stop assuming and start thinking, maybe it will help you realize that Blizzard IV and Fire IV are as mutually exclusive as Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone/Decimate.
Therefore, there is literally no good reason for them to require two slots in your hotbars.

[Sigma-Astra]

Then stop assuming and start thinking, maybe it will help you realize that Blizzard IV and Fire IV are as mutually exclusive as Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone/Decimate.
Therefore, there is literally no good reason for them to require two slots in your hotbars.

I am thinking. There's literally no reason why Fire IV and Blizzard IV need to be consolidated onto one button because you find pressing either one too much work apparently when you're pressing Fire IV more than you're pressing Blizzard IV anyways to begin with.

I bet you're a Black Mage that uses Freeze too.

[Reynhart]

your bars are trainwrecks because you already don't know what you're doing to begin with.

I bet you're a Black Mage that uses Freeze too.

Behold, the very definition of "I don't have any argument so I'll resort to personal attacks to make me look smart".

There is literally no good reason to reduce the BLM rotation like this.

And you mistake "rotation of skills" with "rotation of buttons"...