Please change 8 man raid loot

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Wanted this for a while. You get 4 tokens a week and how you spend them is up to you. Need to boost your ilvl? 4 Acc's it is! Want to get stronger? Chest + Legs in two weeks.

And then people run them once a week and never again. The whole reason for RNG is if you queue 35 times because of back luck, you've helped keep the queue going 35 times.

The point is not whether or not someone could just go into Savage and get gear but it highlights how horrible of a loot (and especially RNG) system this game has.
Many players run multiple jobs and do not wish to purchase crafted gear so Normal Alphascape was suppose to be a means to gear other jobs, which given how bad rng is makes it near possible.

If you make the alternative to spending money very easy, it destroys any reason to buy gear. The whole point behind the system is use gil to bypass RNG or deal with it in exchange for a free option.

[Maero]

After years of playing this game and getting the same results as you OP, i have went months without drops because of how crappy RNG is in this game so i now just run each floor one time.
I just do not care anymore.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Please do away with this need to have 7 different tokens on these raids and just make it 1 single token used for every gear slot. I've run alphascape 2.0 53 times today to get a bolt for my alt just to have an overwhelming majority of them taken by the person that really should be the one repeating the duty this many times so they learn not to die 7-15 times during the run. And no I am not going to make a PF to sit around for 2 hours just so half the group can bail after the first clear.

the amount of tomes you get from that many runs would probably get you a better accessory, anyway. why anyone would do this raid 53 times is crazy to me. with that much effort into a 380 accessory, you could put in learning Savage content for 400 gear.

[galbsadi]

the amount of tomes you get from that many runs would probably get you a better accessory, anyway. why anyone would do this raid 53 times is crazy to me. with that much effort into a 380 accessory, you could put in learning Savage content for 400 gear.

They'd hit the tomestone cap for creation before the 53 runs (at 45 runs assuming they did nothing else, in fact).

[Nora_of_Mira]

They'd hit the tomestone cap for creation before the 53 runs (at 45 runs assuming they did nothing else, in fact).

I guess my point was to make a hyperbole, and that casual content shouldn't be played with this much effort. It should be played casually. Putting this level of effort into casual content is just putting stress in places where it doesn't need to be. (thats exactly why I got burned out on Pyros, no pun intended).

[CaptainLagbeard]

At least 8 man raids you are guaranteed to get each of the possible loot to drop each run.

24 man raids you get to sometimes run 20 times to get a chance of rolling at loot, and unless it's tank gear you can have other people rolling on it too.

[tdb]

They really should do something to make the distribution of loot items to match up better with how many of them are needed. For a full set of alphascape gear you need five bolts, four shafts, four springs, two cranks, two pedals, two lenses and one single chain. Yet most of these drop in fairly equal amounts. There's as many chain drops as shaft drops, despite the fact that you need four times as many shafts. And worst of all, the bolts are also used for orchestrion rolls which can be sold on the market board! Meaning that even players who have completed their gear sets will keep rolling for bolts.

[Nora_of_Mira]

They really should do something to make the distribution of loot items to match up better with how many of them are needed. For a full set of alphascape gear you need five bolts, four shafts, four springs, two cranks, two pedals, two lenses and one single chain. Yet most of these drop in fairly equal amounts. There's as many chain drops as shaft drops, despite the fact that you need four times as many shafts. And worst of all, the bolts are also used for orchestrion rolls which can be sold on the market board! Meaning that even players who have completed their gear sets will keep rolling for bolts.

the problem with that is that IF you're getting this gear for their stats and using them to run content, they are NOT equal in value. (1 chain vs 4 shafts and 1 belt vs 1 chest piece). I'm pretty sure Square is assuming people who are after this gear for their stats are also building up tomestones and are likely going to mix and match tomestone gear and normal raid gear to suit their needs.

accessories are the cheapest, which is why they cost 1 bolt. plus, when has a full set of Normal raid gear been a better alternative than tome+raid gear?

I am also trying to gear up my alt with Alphascape gear + tomestones so i know the struggle. I just want the SAM chest piece. But Idc if it takes 5 months to get, the gear is just glam at this point.

[Maero]

The point is not whether or not someone could just go into Savage and get gear but it highlights how horrible of a loot (and especially RNG) system this game has.
Many players run multiple jobs and do not wish to purchase crafted gear so Normal Alphascape was suppose to be a means to gear other jobs, which given how bad rng is makes it near possible.