Duty finder issues

[AdrenKael]

That's... exactly the point we made. If you queue in as lvl70, you get put in with all the people running high and low level as well as just roulettes. If you queue in as lvl 50, your pool decreases to 15-47 dungeons and roulette runners.

So when I queue for main scenario as tank as adventurer in need and Im level 63 and I have to wait in line position number 6 but I leave the queue and requeue as heals and it's insta-queue. Please explain how my pool has decreased since the only duties in there are castrum and praetorium?.

Raldo is probably right. It's not updating fast enough. Which means that adventurer in need is not what's really needed. With Main scenario since the only dungeons I'm aware of in that Duty list are Castrum and Prae and I'm above that in both tank and heals level is irrelevant.

[Raldo]

Since I haven't seen a clear answer yet...

1) Why does [Role] in need not get me instant queues when I queue as [Role]?
Because the system doesn't update in real time. You and 300 other people saw it say Tank in need, so the first couple tanks might've gotten instant queues, but now there's more tanks in the queue than there are healers. I don't know how often the [Role] in need system updates, but it doesn't roll over as soon as the tanks surpass the healers.

2) Why can I still get Sastasha and other low-level duties when the entire party is clearly way over the level of the dungeon?
If all party members were queued for the roulette (rather than those queued for specific dungeons), then it's up to RNG which dungeon you get.

Obviously, I didn't build the system, so take these answers with a grain of salt. These are merely my own assumptions.

[Vahlnir]

Since I haven't seen a clear answer yet...


2) Why can I still get Sastasha and other low-level duties when the entire party is clearly way over the level of the dungeon?
If all party members were queued for the roulette (rather than those queued for specific dungeons), then it's up to RNG which dungeon you get.

Obviously, I didn't build the system, so take these answers with a grain of salt. These are merely my own assumptions.

If a dungeon is listed as one of the possibilities in a queue, it has a chance to show up. It doesn't matter what level you or your friends are. Like I said at the start of the thread...random will be random.

[Ilan]

I don't know if this is a bug or a "feature" but has anyone noticed when using duty finder occasionally you're grouped with a full group of 50+ characters and it puts you in sastasha or Hauke Manor?

Also What is up with the Adventurer in need bonus? Seems to always be tank but when I queue as tank I'm like 6th in queue but the moment I withdraw and requeue as healer it's insta-queue?

One would think that the adventurer in need would point you in the job direction of one that's actually in need. I remember quite a while back this being a thing and it STILL hasn't improved in like 2 years?

Maybe, just maybe, they need to pay people to tank because tanking in this game is such a hassle? I stopped being mainly a tank when I started to have to replace keyboards every 3 weeks because my tab key was constantly getting worn out. Maybe if it wouldn't select a mob in the Dravanian Forelands while you're in Gridania it wouldn't be so bad? Maybe, I dunno.

Either way it's annoying to queue for a dungeon for the adventurer in need bonus as a level 50 healer and get put in sastasha with other players who are all level 50+.

Well its a roulette and you get random stuff in every possible levelrange no matter if there is someone level 18 or all are level 70. Yeah its really annoying especially if you are leveling something and you hope for something "usefull" but you either swallow the pill or you don't bother with queing for that roulette.

[Vahlnir]

Well its a roulette and you get random stuff in every possible levelrange no matter if there is someone level 18 or all are level 70. Yeah its really annoying especially if you are leveling something and you hope for something "usefull" but you either swallow the pill or you don't bother with queing for that roulette.

Yep. I've queue for leveling roulette before and got Ifrit, Garuda and Titan normal on more than one occasion. People just have to accept that it's a possibility. If they can't...well, roulettes aren't for them.

[Ilan]

Yep. I've queue for leveling roulette before and got Ifrit, Garuda and Titan normal on more than one occasion. People just have to accept that it's a possibility. If they can't...well, roulettes aren't for them.

Oh yes the beloved baby primals...i always facepalm if i get them when i level something. On the other hand they are quickly done if you compare it to several dungeons in that level range.

[AdrenKael]

People just have to accept that it's a possibility. If they can't...well, roulettes aren't for them.

My only qualm with this is it would take very few lines of code to change it. It's not much more complicated then if (var = ( int)). I know WHY they don't, increase in server stress, but to say just don't queue I can't agree with. Especially when a more streamlined queue is only a few lines of code away.

[Vahlnir]

My only qualm with this is it would take very few lines of code to change it. It's not much more complicated then if (var = ( int)). I know WHY they don't, increase in server stress, but to say just don't queue I can't agree with. Especially when a more streamlined queue is only a few lines of code away.

It's a simple solution. Don't like it? Don't do it. That's really all that needs to be said. I don't think it's really about server stress. They want to keep lower level content active. The ARR and HW relics were proof of this. So...again, if it's an issue then don't take part in it.

[AdrenKael]

It's a simple solution. Don't like it? Don't do it. That's really all that needs to be said. I don't think it's really about server stress. They want to keep lower level content active. The ARR and HW relics were proof of this. So...again, if it's an issue then don't take part in it.

The older content is still alive by the people leveling up new classes, new players etc. I have NO problems going into a sastasha run with a tank, healer or dps who needs it for the story or the mob xp. I've volunteered so many times to heal or tank queue for FC mates who need it even though I was queuing as a level 50 or 60+ and he needs sastasha or Copperbell or Garuda. No problems doing that at all and we're not talking about that. We're talking about a way to fix something that is an issue yet you're saying don't fix just ignore it. That's NOT a solution that's just ignoring the problem. Simply fixing it to where if the whole group the DF pairs you with is 50+ you get queued into the highest level dungeon that the weakest member qualifies for. It doesn't do that. A whle group of 50+ members can be put into sastasha even though no one needs it. If you're doing it as tank/healer for the daily bonus and you're in a group of all 50's and it tosses you into garuda norm that's dumb. Especially when it's easily fixable. Hope that clears up your confusion as to the reason why I have an issue with it.

[Catwho]

The bonus at the end is supposed to make up for the lower level.

You'll get a middling bonus when you're in a level 51 dungeon at level 53. But you'll get a giant chunk, at least a third of a level, if you land in baby Stash.