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  1. #61
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    Hikki Rio
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    You won't get into trouble for telling someone to F himself. I am guessing you are leaving out 95% of things you did to cause problems ^^
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Riot View Post
    I guess that all depends on how you play the game. Do you play a lot of PvP or high end content? Or are you a casual? Myself I never find Toxic environments because I solo a lot. I bet if you spent a lot of time in the "Environment" this kid seems to play in you to would see it. *shrugs*
    There's one! Don't worry, I'm going to control myself.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    There's one! Don't worry, I'm going to control myself.
    Awwww...
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  4. #64
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    Mental health issues are not a blank cheque for acting like a dick. You're still responsible for your actions, and the fact that you can look back after the fact and say "well I shouldn't have done it but it's not my fault because it was heat of the moment" tells me that you know exactly what you're doing, you just don't want to put in the work to improve your reaction. (@ the person who linked Tourette, please read your own link, it's not an excuse for anything; the sheet specifically says "The reality is that most people with Tourette do not excessively or uncontrollably use inappropriate language." and articles about Tourette make it known that this is a neurological issue, not a psychological issue. You're not going to suddenly start spam typing obscenities because of it. I know several people who clinically do not have Tourette and yet try to use it as an excuse for being rude and I can't stand that excuse, it's rude to people who actually do have it.)

    If this thread had shown remorse, something along the lines of "I have an issue that I'm working to improve, I know it's hard, and I've messed up, and sometimes it feels impossible, so I'm afraid that I'll mess up again and lose my account before I can really make a noticeable change" then I would have had more sympathy for you. I have a tendency to be emotionally needy and manipulative in relationships, but guess what? I recognise that as a fact, something that sucks, and oh boy is it difficult to change, but guess what? Others shouldn't have to put up with my nonsense simply because I don't want to control myself. The fact that your entire post history in this thread is a string of "but it's not my fault I don't want to control myself or accept responsibility for my actions, it's too hard" and honestly? I think you probably need to start dealing with some repercussions.

    Maybe some day you'll get one that opens your eyes to the fact that actions have consequences, and you don't just get to cry your way out of them.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Mental health issues are not a blank cheque for acting like a dick. You're still responsible for your actions..
    He's not excusing his actions, he's asking for a change in the severity of the ban. That's all. He even admins that he's getting better and putting in the effort. So he does acknowledge his faults, he's asking for some Empathy.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Mental health issues are not a blank cheque for acting like a dick. You're still responsible for your actions..


    This is pretty much all there is to it.
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  7. #67
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    Sygglona Ahldfarrwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    Before that I had no idea that was a "Ban" word that is forbidden because I use to use the F word like it was nothing. To me it's just another word used in replace of something less impactful.
    I think this sums things up pretty succinctly. Having the F-word as a normal part of your vocabulary isn't a mental illness (even people with tourettes realize their tics aren't just normal conversation), it just means you've got a sailor mouth. I'm generally pretty profane in casual conversation too, but you have to know what audience you're talking to. You mentioned you're 28, do you have a job? If so, how do you talk to your boss when he's making you angry? If you don't have a job, how would you respond to an annoying teacher in school? Though that one might be a worse example, since kids are pretty mean to teachers sometimes, but just ask yourself how you act IRL when you're not in a casual situation, you probably don't just throw f-bombs everywhere.

    If you really don't think you can control yourself, maybe start playing with a gamepad and leaving the keyboard somewhere else, so you have a few seconds to think about what you say before you say it. It's a lot harder to say bannable things via autotranslate.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    Guess everyone who stands up against the tolls and says words that are against the rules will be ban for ever while the more intelligent toxic trolls will continue to report people like me who are not as smart. What a world to live in.
    Standing up against the trolls isn't by fueling their fire and becoming a troll yourself, it's being the bigger person and letting them troll to no one. Throwing words back at them makes you no better than they are. You're saying the world isn't fair because you give people reasons to report you and they act on it? I'd say that's very "intelligent" of them to do. Just report them if they deserve it and move on.

    I understand it can be very hard not to get riled up by what people say, but there are plenty of ways to voice your concerns/issues with someone without breaking any rules. I never start things myself, but sometimes I get called out on my gameplay, because, no, I'm not a FANTASTIC player (but I try my dang hardest!). It can be hard to take into practice, but when I find myself in a situation, I find that "killing them with kindness" tends to shut them up. If they can't get a reaction out of you, they'll likely just back off. It also makes them look rather stupid, being the only one arguing. Yes, being the bigger person can be more difficult than just giving in and stooping to their level, but in the end, it's a better outcome for yourself, and others around you.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikki_ View Post
    You won't get into trouble for telling someone to F himself. I am guessing you are leaving out 95% of things you did to cause problems ^^
    You most certainly can. Swearing is strictly against ToS. You can be banned off of forums for far lesser things.

    As for the original poster...If you can't control yourself then the problem is a trait you possess, not the system. People that are quick to anger and cannot control their emotions in real life aren't allowed to have guns and can be banned from working with children or in certain institutes (like a hospital). It's on you that you are ill-suited to an MMO.

    What I can suggest is to turn off all chat. Sorry. If you cannot control yourself based on what's being written...then make it so you cannot read it in the first place. Limit yourself to Free Company if you trust them. Even if you slip up, if they know you they may wave it and not report. No report, no ban. There are people that have different mental health problems than you, ones where they are emotionally wounded by being attacked and your outburst can cause them actual harm. That's why you can be banned for what some people consider "lesser stuff", among others.

    If you want your mental condition to be considered by others, start by being considered of those that those others may have.
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  10. #70
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    Mixt Bell
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    I wouldn't bet on that working.

    Not giving them what they want only makes them escalate further.
    There certainly is no shortage of horror stories indicating as much.

    And reporting them can lead to revenge actions like making alts/Disposable Accounts on your server, hunting you down and repeatedly harrasing you in the open world.
    And dragging their friends in and getting all organized about it.

    People are jerks like that.
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