Is it wrong to run Castrum Abania as a tank at ilvl 272

[Yshnal]

"Oh! I'll just wear a mishmash of i360 accessories to raise my ilevel and then I'll be strong enough to que!"

That's just a case of someone not giving two fucks about playing properly. It's not the same as the OP's case: an experienced tank player, even maining the role that they queued with, which only used low ilvl gear for his job and which was able to get to CA's last boss (a boss where the burden falls on the dps to kill adds properly and in time). There's a difference between what you experienced and what we're talking about and support. In fact, the situation that you're talking about depicts the kind of players that we criticise.

[SturmChurro]

Well unfortunatly there's a lot of older players who leveled alt jobs and spammed potd without buying any gear and recommend this way to new fc members.So if you want someone to blame look no further.

I do that, but when I'm 70 on it, I put them in 360 gear, and maybe a suzaku weapon now. You don't want to see what my level 55 alt is wearing. I just spam roullete on it and get off, she's still wearing the starting accessories. Paladin, by the way.

[Barraind]

Until you can't properly kill enemies at a decent rate, resulting in the healer running out of mana, dead tank, resulting in wipes.

Seen that scenario multiple times.

Yup.

Have had to tank and heal Bardams and Albania (and Vault back in HW) with terribly geared dps.

We absolutely know when its happening. It's awful.

[Barraind]

To be fair, I have next to 0 sympathy to anyone at 70 who is undergeared and isn't very new to 70.

Normal omega and rakshasa crafted gear have been out for 15 or 16 weeks, pyros for a couple months and mendacity is uncapped. No real excuse to not have everything you're playing at 370 mininum.

[Ilan]

Well unfortunatly there's a lot of older players who leveled alt jobs and spammed potd without buying any gear and recommend this way to new fc members.So if you want someone to blame look no further.

PotD is 100% not to blame for this. Especially not if these players already have already played before, its the players themself if they don't even bother thinking and comparing or if they are so greedy that they have to sell the gear that they got for free in a dungeon or a quest.

[Hamada]

PotD is 100% not to blame for this. Especially not if these players already have already played before, its the players themself if they don't even bother thinking and comparing or if they are so greedy that they have to sell the gear that they got for free in a dungeon or a quest.

People.. least for NA/EU playerbase, people say JP playerbase is more respectful, but I do not have personal experience with that, tend to look for the easiest way to do something. So if something lets them enter with undergeared, they will, because it is letting them. So most of the blame is not putting requirements to begin with because they think it is ok. We had at least 2 posters defending this because of that reasoning.

So no do not blame PotD. PotD has nothing to do with it and these issues existed before that released and people did it long after level cap in HW and in SB and continue to do so today at times.

I just now had to heal a DRK in The Burn wearing Antiquated i290 gear including the weapon. Go **** yourselves who enable these players and their behavior.

Because getting one shot, rezzed and then not being about to regain top aggro despite using Provoke and Ultimatum is what was intended.

"Oh! I'll just wear a mishmash of i360 accessories to raise my ilevel and then I'll be strong enough to que!"

PotD has nothing to do with this story, same with the one done by the OP.

[Bright-Flower]

Aren't there vendors in quest hubs that sell level appropriate gear in every zone of SB? Shouldn't be too expensive to update your out of date pieces while leveling before heading into a dungeon even if you most leveled in HoH. Unless you're just completely broke.

[MariaArvana]

Aren't there vendors in quest hubs that sell level appropriate gear in every zone of SB? Shouldn't be too expensive to update your out of date pieces while leveling before heading into a dungeon even if you most leveled in HoH. Unless you're just completely broke.

Playing devil's advocate, the vendor gear costs add up quick. A full left side i285 costs just shy under 200k gil and that's before accessories (close to 250k w/ them); not every person is interested in dropping that much gil in gear that within just a few dungeon runs is obsolete and now glamour duty (if that person even likes how it looks.) 200k may not be much for some people, but that's nearly 10% of my gil amount; You can bet I'd be riding 270/whatever dungeon gear I had all the way than forfeit that much gil.

Even if you're just repping 1-2 pieces, that's still 50-60k dropped for (arguably) minor gains; It's easy to see why people avoid vendor gear that's not just straight handed to them; especially if the person doesn't make much gil in the first place.

[Ilan]

People.. least for NA/EU playerbase, people say JP playerbase is more respectful, but I do not have personal experience with that, tend to look for the easiest way to do something. So if something lets them enter with undergeared, they will, because it is letting them. So most of the blame is not putting requirements to begin with because they think it is ok. We had at least 2 posters defending this because of that reasoning.

So no do not blame PotD. PotD has nothing to do with it and these issues existed before that released and people did it long after level cap in HW and in SB and continue to do so today at times.


PotD has nothing to do with this story, same with the one done by the OP.

Yeah the not existing min ilvl is the biggest issue closely followed by the people that have no respect for their own party members. I don't know either if the japanese players are different and i honestly don't even care because i don't play with them, i have to play with the people on my datacenter.

[Hamada]

Playing devil's advocate, the vendor gear costs add up quick. A full left side i285 costs just shy under 200k gil and that's before accessories (close to 250k w/ them); not every person is interested in dropping that much gil in gear that within just a few dungeon runs is obsolete and now glamour duty (if that person even likes how it looks.) 200k may not be much for some people, but that's nearly 10% of my gil amount; You can bet I'd be riding 270/whatever dungeon gear I had all the way than forfeit that much gil.

Even if you're just repping 1-2 pieces, that's still 50-60k dropped for (arguably) minor gains; It's easy to see why people avoid vendor gear that's not just straight handed to them; especially if the person doesn't make much gil in the first place.

You missed the point. Bright was not suggesting to buy a FULL set "Shouldn't be too expensive to update your out of date pieces " the game literally hands you gear just for finishing a dungeon. There is ZERO excuse to enter dungeons undergeared, like the op, ZERO excuse they entered with i272. vendors aside, least on my server because of the high population selling the MSQ handouts are useally a lot cheaper then the vendors anyway. Plus you gotta consider MSQ bots that make it cheap as well.

Not having gil is not an excuse as well, the game hands you tons of it, hence why the MSQ bots exist to begin with. I am shocked beyond belief how lazy the playerbase is. "It's easy to see why people avoid vendor gear that's not just straight handed to them" no is is not, and I do not understand it at all, given the high amount of hand outs