New DRK, some newbies questions.

[Ahrijlaken]

Hi,

I just come back after 2+year of break and because i have the patience of a child i wanted to test red mage and samourai right away ( but i had only lvl 60 scholar ) so i used a booster to lvl up a DRK to 60.

But in fact i like to play it ... it was not suppose to happen.

So i trained a little bit on low lvl dungeon to learn early spell and learn how to tank with it. But i still have question for DK lvl 50/60+ content. My question are more about dungeon 4-man than raid or 8-man right now cause im not ready for that yet.

1. Now i have to manage Dark Art. What is the best use of DA ? Dark passenger to get a blind when i pull 3+ mobs ? My souleater finisher dmg combo ? Abyssal drain to sustain when i pull 3+ mobs ? DA with dark mind should be situational i guess.
   
2. Carve and spit is for damage or mana regen ? Should i use DA with it ?
   
3. Unleash vs Abyssal drain ? I pull with unmend, then i walk + unleash because it's instant and cost less mana, i turn 180° to face my party and then abyssal drain 1 or 2 times to build agro ?
   
4. Abyssal Drain cost only 11 mana and it build AOE threat. Should i spam this during AOE pulling like if it was just a damage spell in my rotation ? It replace souleater ? So i do Syphon strike -> Abyssal drain instead of souleater when there are 3 mobs because it 120x3 damage for 11 mana + threat and against 4 mobs it's even better than DA souleater finisher right ?
   
5. Soon i will have to manage Delirium too ... i guess it's better to use it with blood weapon right ? Do the MP regen the same whatever i choose BW or BP ? And is blood price extend worth it for when i pull trash ? 120s cooldown is big.
   
6. Soon i will have to manage Quietus ( god help me it's too much for my brain ). 160 to all ennemy is good damage, but again DA with it ? And because there are blood gauge i guess it's not something that we can spam like retard ? What is the purpose of this spell ?
   
7. Soon i will have to manage bloodsplitter ( OMG ... ). I guess we always want to use DA with it because the damage is crazy ... but when do i use it ? What is the rotation, i use it right away when i have mana for DA ?
   

During basics dungeon what is my pulling rotation for trash and my rotation for boss ?

For trash : Unmend -> walk -> unsleash -> turn -> Abyssal drain -> salted earth -> blood price -> DA + Dark passenger -> Syphon combo ending with abyssal drain ?

For boss :Something like Unmend -> Plunge -> hard slash -> salted earth -> blood price -> spining slash -> DA + power slash ( for big threat ) -> hard slash -> Blood weapon -> Syphon -> (Delirium) -> Souleater .... and than i repeat the damage combo ?


Thank and sorry to ask so many question

[EusisLandale]

Use Dark Arts pretty much every time you can, unless it would keep you from using The Blackest Night when its needed.
As for that boss rotation, Blood Price is going to last only a couple seconds. Might as well bump it up to being before Unmend. Dark Arts before Unmend too for the Plunge, and try to get Dark Arts+Carve & Spit in there somewhere early.

[ArianeEwah]

Hi Ahri,

don't be sorry for asking. Better safe than sorry, right?

Now to answer your questions:

First things first: Dark Mind doesn't need Dark Arts anymore, it provides 30% magic mitigation on default now!

For single target:
Dark Passenger only in opener (overwise you cap mana), if you don't have any slashing debuffs (WAR, NIN or SAM in party) AND are MT you can use it on CD.
Carve and Spit always with DA enhanced!
Delirium always with Blood Weapon - inital MP gain is the same as Blood Price, but you generate more MP with Blood Weapon on single target.
Don't bother with Quietus on single target, focus on Delirium and Bloodspiller.

This should be your lvl 60 MT opener, this one as OT

For lvl 70 openers here

On trash, you use CnS without DA for MP gain, Quietus (with DA if you can afford it), Abyssal Drain (with DA only if you would/are overflowing with mana), don't bother with Sython Strike - unless you are starving.

[Ahrijlaken]

Thanks a lot !

[shao32]

Well let's go by parts, on single Target dark arts is better to use on carve and spit, shyphon, soul eater,plunge and bloodspiller, all of then get 140 potency except carve and spit since gain 350 of potency, So yes carve and spit always with DA on single target (on mass pulling carve and spit to gain extra mp is better).

About delirium, always with blood weapon on single target, you notice blood weapon is only out of grit so the deal is pull with grit, generate a lot of agro and then turn off grit to push dps and use you mitigation kit properly to compensate, if you feel you can't manage that or you healer can't keep you up then turn grit on but the ideal is every delirium with blood weapon, if not then yeah with Blood price, but never alone.

About bloodspiller, use it all the time you have 50 blood, the skill don't broke you combo so you can use it any time you want, except you have to use delirium then save some for it and never overflow blood.

On mass pulling, use unmend and unleash to grab and place all the adds and then when you have it all stack spam abyssal on then, use DA with abyssal to some nice self heals if you need it, when you have all the skills the thing will be use the blackest night to gain blood, use quietus to gain mp since you get a nice Chung with every Target and use that mp for more TBN and AD, delirium work well with blood price in Mass pulling so you can use it there.

About dark passenger is a dps gain with 2 or more targets only, it can be used single target if slashing debuff is no present ( that's why we use it on the opener) it's nice use it in Mass pulling but whatch you mp, DA dark passenger is nice but cost a lot, don't run out of mp and get defendless.

And your openers the mass pulling is good, and the single target is not ideal but is decent if you are not going to turn grit off, just use dark arts before pull so plunge bring you extra agro at the beginning.