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Thread: 4.5 WHM

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    4.5 WHM

    As much as I hate to be the sort to look a gift horse in the mouth. It feels like SE looked at feedback from early Stormblood, instead of looking at what might close the gap between WHM and AST/SCH.

    This also has me worried that SE will yet again double down on "pure healer" for 5.0, and we'll go through the Heavensward/Stormblood cycle once more.

    Anyone have a different take on the changes?
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    While the enmity reductions are welcome I’m sure, and Plenary can now allow for some semblance of planning around its usage with the longer-lasting Confession stacks, it really does seem that they’re still pushing WHM to be the “pure healer” in this game. And that’s just not going to work when its competitors are most definitely not “pure healers” in any way.

    This also makes me wonder how WHM will do if DNC is introduced in 5.0 (and it actually very well designed). Call me pessimistic, but if DNC is good and WHM is still being shoved into a “pure healer” role, I don’t think it will fair well at all.
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    It's not to say that enmity changes along with Assize and Plenary indulgence aren't welcome, but it really does feel like they were buffed with only themselves in mind. Not buffed in a way that will help them catch up to AST and SCH. It's an absolute shame, I wasn't expecting much, but they could have at least buffed potencies across the board similar to MCH.

    Overall it just feels like they have no intentions on making WHM any better than where it is. I really fear for 5.0 if dancer really is the new healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I wasn't expecting much, but they could have at least buffed potencies across the board similar to MCH.
    Honestly what I was hoping for, especially after reading the monk changes beforehand. Then getting to the WHM changes, it was like the bottom dropped out of my stomach.

    Another 6 months of being hated and resented and called healing cancer. But the assize change will make the DPS contrast less stark, at least...
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    I'd really dig WHM being the pure healer if it brought the best dps (single target and AoE) of all the healers.

    Saying that, I was expecting a potency increase (or cast time decrease) to Stone and the Aeros, along with a MP cost reduction.

    Plenary Indulgence buff is nice, because like someone said here, it will be allowed to plan the stacks for the next AoE wave, but honestly I think that is still more healing than necessary. The change I think would be the best it was if instead of confession stacks, PI used lilies instead.

    Overall, the patch buffs were nice, but they tackled the aspect that WHM is already excelling at, not the aspect that it is faulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    [...] along with a MP cost reduction.
    The new Assise cooldown makes up for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    The new Assise cooldown makes up for that.
    It makes up for the MP that you're spending since you can use it more frequently, but as stated it's like WHM got shafted again. Just stop focusing on the healing aspect of WHM SE and just give us a proper damage buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I'd really dig WHM being the pure healer if it brought the best dps (single target and AoE) of all the healers.
    Agreed. WHM really should be/bring the best DPS - by a big margin and effortlessly - if they refuse to give it any kind of utility.

    An in combat mass-res would be good too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    An in combat mass-res would be good too.
    I thought that was Res Mage's job...

    Joking aside, nah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Agreed. WHM really should be bring the best DPS - by a big margin and effortlessly - if they refuse to give it any kind of utility.

    An in combat mass-res would be good too.
    Or an AoE Esuna or some dispell that lets WHM remove all debuffs with a single cast. Or even ReRaise.
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