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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    Hi Anas86,

    The macro feature of that mouse or the software that came with it is not allowed by SE, even with attended gameplay, can be considered "absent play". If you continue to use it, you will do be doing so at your own risk.

    (The mouse itself is not prohibited, but taking advantage of those features are).
    GM in training?

    OP, enjoy your mouse. Don't let these moralfa--uhhh, super jelly two button mouse players scare you.

    Naga 4 lyfe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    GM in training?

    OP, enjoy your mouse. Don't let these moralfa--uhhh, super jelly two button mouse players scare you.

    Naga 4 lyfe!
    I don't see how her telling someone that the macro may get them banned is being a "moralfag" or wannabe GM. I perceived it as advice: That he should stop using it in case SE interprets it as a bot and bans him.

    Please note the subtle difference: She was saying he MIGHT get banned. She was NOT saying that he SHOULD be banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    GM in training?

    OP, enjoy your mouse. Don't let these moralfa--uhhh, super jelly two button mouse players scare you.

    Naga 4 lyfe!
    Hi Treach,

    I apologize if that was misinterpreted as a threat or with a condescending tone.

    It was meant more as a "please be safe, would like to advise on the side of caution" since we have a SE representative clarifying the subject more.
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    dev post recently specifically mentioned gaming mice and keyboards that include macro capabilities is not allowed, but there is no way for them to know you use them unless you say you do.
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    It's really no different then using windower for ffxi back in the old days, near infinite and lag free macros with no size restrictions.

    Going to let us make addons in the future that will probably give us huge advantages if similar to WoW, but no turbo button for you!
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    Hmm.. Thanks for the input guys. I think this thread can benefit many people. As I said, this is the very first gaming mouse that I bought and I am just curious with the functions it offers.
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    Hello,

    It is possible that mapping keys to your mouse is okey? I.e. mapping 1-0 on keyboard to 1-10 on mouse.

    Then instead of moving hand from mouse to keyboard to press 7, you simply click '7' on the mouse.

    I'm not sure THIS would be considered against the rules. However, if you mapped multi-step functions to a mouse button, i.e.:
    Pressing '7' on mouse is same as pressing '3' then '5' then '7' then '4' then '8' on keyboard then this might not be allowed.

    However! If you had an in in-game macro, say: CTRL-1 that did the equivalent of:
    3
    5
    7
    4
    8

    And you mapped keyboard '1' to mouse '1' and then pressed CTRL on keyboard with 1 on mouse, then I think THIS would be okey ^.^;;;

    Or to sum up, I BELIEVE it is okey if there is a 1-to-1 relationship between pressing the key on mouse versus pressing the key on keyboard. It is when pressing the key on mouse results in a set of operations that would require more than one key press on keyboard that it becomes a problem.

    Personally, I still use a two-button laptop mouse as I find it enough for my needs. But maybe one day I try out something more fancy and like it ^.^;
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    Hello,

    There can still be a fine line drawn between the use of a button on a mouse to execute 'automated action' versus the use of the mouse button to equal the press of a single key on the keyboard.

    I know it is a lot to have them spell out in great detail what is and what is not permitted. I also know it would be sad to those who need to map the keys from keyboard to mouse not be able to because they are uncertain if it is allowed or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    Hello,

    There can still be a fine line drawn between the use of a button on a mouse to execute 'automated action' versus the use of the mouse button to equal the press of a single key on the keyboard.

    I know it is a lot to have them spell out in great detail what is and what is not permitted. I also know it would be sad to those who need to map the keys from keyboard to mouse not be able to because they are uncertain if it is allowed or not.
    I don't see a line. The only thing prohibited that I can see is the AUTOMATION of actions, such as automatically walking from one camp to another, or botting your crafting. Making your mouse button approximate a key press is not automating an action, it's merely changing the input device.
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  10. 02-24-2012 10:01 PM
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    Bah nvm I was wrong

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