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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrenKael View Post
    Let me toss a little math your way. (numbers aren't representative of any particular fight but the general idea is sound)

    Healer: 282 DPS with healing tank and no one is standing in stupid
    Healer: 100 DPS with healing tank and dps who refuse to move out of ANY aoe
    DPS :465 dps while standing in aoes
    DPS: 463 dps while moving out of aoes

    Net loss of DPS from DPS standing in stupid: 180 DPS

    Plenty of reason not to stand in stupid my friend. DPS who stand in stupid actually slow things down.
    So... when you say that the numbers arent representative of any particular fight, you actually mean that they're not real numbers but something you made up?
    Also nice twisting my words - I never said that DPS can just stand in every AoE, what I said was "If it wont kill me", which includes calculating if there is any incoming damage that cant be avoided that could kill me within the next minute. Personally, I know fights well enough to make such judgment calls. If an AoE will drop my HP to 50% and I have second wind available, I dont really need to move, because I'm still perfectly fine healthwise.

    My whole post was about someone (either an indivual or the party together) being able to judge wether to deal with a mechanic the "proper" way, find a way to "cheat" the mechanic or ignore the mechanic alltogether and either heal through it OR just... do nothing about it, because its not needed. And that what makes a fight intresting - to decide how to deal with a mechanic. Hell, we often enough have people in our static during Savage-runs going like "I wont move out of this" with our healers being "Sure, no problem!" - and then making use of their tools to make that possible. And let me assure you that thats not costing them 60% of their DPS.

    Obviously you need and should dodge damage/AoEs that will have a negative impact on the party-dps - but thats not the case for all AoEs. And if I have a Medica 2 ticking or an Eos whos out of work, because the boss is merely tickeling the tank, why shouldnt I take advantge of that?

    If you want to make a case... dont make it with made numbers and without actually thinking and carefully reading and judging what has been said. I never advoacted for dps to just blindly eat every AoE but to be aware of whats going around them and what tools (CDs, self healing, regens, fairys, earthly star, assylum... etc. - I'm NOT even talking about direct healing that would cost the healer a stone 2) are at their disposal and how best to use those.

    Its obviously wrong to say "You can stand in every AoE at anytime!"
    But in my opinion its equally wrong to say "You have to avoid every AoE all the time" - because there are circumstances that allow you to actually just take the AoE and keep up your dps without risking your life and even without making the healer work harder. Making those calls correctly is actually part of what makes a good dps - knowing when to sacrfice HP for damage, without sacrificing life.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 12-15-2018 at 12:45 AM.