Why bother?

[Dualgunner]

The idea IS sound because we're not talking about normal run of the mill stand in one or two aoes. I expect that we're talking about those late night 2 am duty finder runs where the DPS stand in EVERY aoe. If you want to know where the numbers are from they aren't representative of anything in particular but I'll give you a specific example.

Saying "the idea IS sound" does not automatically make the idea sound. The fact you just spat out random numbers is a large hamper to your argument and it's hurt your credibility by showing just how hyperbolic you're being.

EDIT: Also, gonna keep that snippet: we're not talking about normal run of the mill duty finder. We're talking about fringe minority cases in which case...

Why bother asking SE "Why bother with mechanics when a fringe minority will ignore all of them?"

In Nidhog in the aery the DPS standing in the flame I did 85% less dps and we failed because I was OOM and the tank died from me healing and rezing the DPS. When we came back and the DPS got their heads of their posterior regions and actually moved DPS shot up the tank stayed at 85% and we completed it in LESS time the it took us to fail the first time.

Those are stupid DDs. They're not "getting more DPS" by standing in any of his fires; if we're talking the cleave? Melee are losing DPS by not getting positionals. The levitating flame orb? Insta wipe, they're idiots if they ignore it. The Ultimate? They're not getting any extra DPS by not standing in the bubble because there is no target to hit. If they're telling you that they're being stupid for DPS, then they're being extra stupid because they're getting no extra DPS in Nidhogg.

All in all? Terrible example. I, again, cite Sigmascape V1.0 (Savage) Head-On strat as being a good example of a time standing in stupid is a buff. Vidu also pointed out that most dungeons we're in, we're so overgeared for that standing in an AoE has no effect on the healer's end, so if it grants the DPS more uptime, then they should do it.

So please challenge away the fact that DPS stand in stupid slows us down to a crawl. But please let the DPS feel free to tout that standing in stupid makes their DPS go WAY up as they're're tanking the floor.

You didn't have to ask, since I already challenged your numbers. Your Nidhogg is a bad example because there is no extra damage to be gained for taking mechanical risks in that fight. Standing in cleaves gives no extra damage. Standing in one-shot fire when there's no target gives no extra damage. Not killing the levitating ball gives no extra damage. They weren't being idiots for extra damage, they were just being idiots.