Why bother?

[Leigaon]

I understand that in early dungeons you can easily DPS down a boss without having to deal with mechanics (think sastasha) but isn't this just teaching new players just to ignore ALL mechanics?

For most people it is. I agree with you in some parts, but the actual situation has so many parts related to it. There's no single solution / mind set to it all but instead multiple. Some I have to learn to accept as being the reality and some I agree with completely.

Each piece of content has a time when it is current and relevant and not cheesable.

This is one of those I agree with also. You're right, it's teaching them to ignore mechanics because they missed out, but at some point they're going to hit that wall where they go "I got to learn to do this right."

So I also agree with Rongway. Sastasha for example, I don't have to worry about the adds as much as I did earlier on. Some runs I do, some I do not. But now it's so old, I cheese on through baby!

This scenario is what it was like, from what I remember, when we first hit 3.0. Everyone was so settled in the "I am a GOD!" that when the first dungeon hit we were getting slapped around. Eventually it became no so bad and you get it done a bit faster as it gets older in content.

I think its a "make mechanics interesting and fun so players WANT to work it" issue.

I agree with you on that one too. Though, what makes players want to work at these? I've looked at it and asked around and for the most part all you get is some gear or if it's new. Gear from something that old means very little, and it's not new.

The end goal for most of these people in these dungeons or instances in general is to get in, out and get your roulette bonus. They sort of mold to that so they can get in and out.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you that you're wrong. I like doing the dances, makes things simple on my end. Though going through this with so many people, these are just some (not all) the connections that come with it. I've learned to accept it, focus on other aspects of the game and move on. Or as someone once said "Don't think about it."

Anyways, good luck to all of you as we run down the last few months in 4.0!