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    AdrenKael's Avatar
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    Adren Kael
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    The deserter's debuff.

    So I'm curious as to why this is triggered when all three member of your group DC and you wait 5 minutes for them and they don't show so you leave and now you have to eat the 30 minute debuff. Who designed that? I don't want to be insulting but what could possibly be wrong with them to make them think THAT is a good idea? Did they suffer massive brain damage?
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    I just would have hoped they'd make more than few minutes' afk (have it trigger after a minute when in instances)/offline status count in the same way as a missing member/incomplete party, allowing others to exit freely, at least...
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrenKael View Post
    I don't want to be insulting - Did they suffer massive brain damage?


    Lol besides that which caught me off guard - it sounds like maybe the system could be improved, 5 minutes of a dead party is heading towards a dead instance.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    That wasn't designed on purpose, it's just that when someone d/cs they are not immediately considered as removed from the instance, to allow them the chance to log back on. As far as the game was concerned, you still ditched a full party, so you got the penalty.


    About the best you could do is ask for the game to remove d/c'd players from an instance sooner, but that will probably step on others' toes. It would also encourage people to d/c themselves on purpose (that is, more people than they do already) to get themselves autokicked from an instance.
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Think in cases like this you can vote to abandon or kick and it will consider it as a majority vote because no one else is there with you. Worth checking at least
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I was once in party and 2 was disconnected. We all voted for abandon and when we came out of the dungeon we all had 30 minute penalty. System is broken for leaving a party.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I was once in party and 2 was disconnected. We all voted for abandon and when we came out of the dungeon we all had 30 minute penalty. System is broken for leaving a party.
    Sounds like vote abandon wasn't passed. Never had this issue myself.
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I was once in party and 2 was disconnected. We all voted for abandon and when we came out of the dungeon we all had 30 minute penalty. System is broken for leaving a party.
    When you say "we all" were you (the remaining party members who vote abandoned) all grouped together before you joined the instance? I wonder if the code counts that as "one" person.

    Well, I guess it doesn't matter, that shouldn't happen, you should report that as a bug.
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    Astaroth Karnaim
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    thats a math error, i dont think its 50% passes its 51% and if theres only 2/4 to vote then it cant pass majority, as for op yeah unless the name is removed from your party list its not considered removed from instance, hence the lockout. the system is working as intended but the circumstances are what screwed you

    im not sure theres a way they could alter it that wouldnt end up screwing over people who get a 90k/2k since that means they have to log in from desktop, or someone that chain 90ks a few times or gets stuck with the "currently logging you out" window or their pc randomly decides "UPDATE TIME!" or crashes, or the server gets rocked by a ddos and half the server dcs, things that are completely out of the players hands while also punishing those who intentionally dc to be a little bitch towards the party (other than generally theres only one of those and you have that kick function for that reason)
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