ELI5: Please explain to me how Glamour works, I can't find anything conclusive onlin

[Seraphor]

"Just carry prisms if you want to glamour in the field."

But then im using prisms every time I change jobs.
I dont currently have to use prisms every time i change jobs.

[Iscah]

"Just carry prisms if you want to glamour in the field."

But then im using prisms every time I change jobs.
I dont currently have to use prisms every time i change jobs.

But that's what you seem to have been saying so far! You don't want to use the dresser because you'd rather use prisms, because the dresser can't do what you want to do and let you re-glamour your gear while in the field.

You seem to be talking like using the dresser system will FORCE you to use the one set of gear for both classes. It does not.

If the dresser never existed, you would need two sets of gear to have two separate glamours for your mages.

With the dresser as it is now, you need two sets of gear to have two separate glamours for your mages.

Nothing has changed there.

Except now there's a quick and efficient way of applying those glamours to your gear while you're in a town.

And sometimes, if you're queuing for a dungeon while in town, you can change which of those glamours is applied to your best gear, and change it back afterwards without any effort or cost.



Again, I feel like the issue is a disconnect between what the dresser was expected to do (allow switching glamours alongside jobs) and what it actually does (paste a new set of glamours over your current gear).

It doesn't do what people hoped it would, but that doesn't make it useless.

For the things it can do, there is no disadvantage or downside to using it. You can continue to use the prisms alongside it.

I don't see the point in refusing to use its current functions just because of what it might have also been able to do, but can't.

[Brynne]

I dont currently have to use prisms every time i change jobs.

You do if your jobs share the same gearset. If you're going to be using the same gear you have for your black mage on your red mage when you hit level 70, you will run into this problem whether you are using the glamour dresser or not.

Basically all the glamour dresser does is applies several manual glamours at once, without using prisms. It's the same system, just streamlined.

The suggestion of carrying glamour prisms and gear in the field is for situations when you receive an upgrade to your current gear and you want the piece to be glamoured before you go back to a city. Or if you're switching to another job that uses the same gearset and you want to look different but don't want to go back to a city to change the glamour.

Yes, the dresser needs optimizing but there's no real compelling reason not to use it. You'll be doing the same thing you're doing right now, but certain things will be easier.

[Seraphor]

My current jobs are DRK, AST, BLM and NIN, so no shared gearsets.
I think I'd rather just have two sets of caster gear for RDM than to keep using prisms because glamour plates dont work outside of cities.

[Iscah]

I think you're conflating two only loosely related issues.

One is what you're going to do about having two casters at the same level.
Option A: share gear and make a glamour that works for both
Option B: use different gear so you can glamour them individually

And the other is how you're going to do that.
Option A: apply glamours with prisms each time you upgrade gear
Option B: make a plate and apply it each time you upgrade gear

You can combine those two sets of options however you like. You could have a shared glamour design stored on a plate. You could (but probably wouldn't) manually apply three different costumes with your second- and third-best caster gear.


And I was never suggesting you should re-glamour your gear with prisms each time you wanted to switch. You seemed to be saying that the plates wouldn't let you change the appearance of your gear in the field - which seemed to imply that you'd be able to if you stuck to using prisms instead.


Just try the system out, and try making use of it for the things it can do, instead of assuming it's not worthwhile until it can do the other thing you wanted it to do.

[Seraphor]

Well I did try it out today, not a very intuitive system to set up.
But anyway, upon applying a glamour, it spams the chat with every individual peice thats glamoured.
Trying to disable that, turns out its included in 'system messages'. So either I don't know whats going on, or I spam my chat whenever I change jobs. Thats another thing that'll need fixing before I use it.

[Brynne]

Well I did try it out today, not a very intuitive system to set up.
But anyway, upon applying a glamour, it spams the chat with every individual peice thats glamoured.
Trying to disable that, turns out its included in 'system messages'. So either I don't know whats going on, or I spam my chat whenever I change jobs. Thats another thing that'll need fixing before I use it.

I recommend not tying your glamour plates to your gearsets if the messaging bothers you. You can apply the plate once and the gear will maintain the appearance, just like if you've done the glamours manually.