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    WigandHellscream's Avatar
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    Wiggy Metario
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    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80

    Healer for speed running dungeons

    I am going to level my healers next. Wich one is currently best for speed farming dungeons for tomes and gear? I have been gone for a while and is unsure about their current state.
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    Raul Prower
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    In raid environment, SCH and AST are the current meta, but I believe WHM is still the strongest option for dungeons.
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    In raid environment, SCH and AST are the current meta, but I believe WHM is still the strongest option for dungeons.
    No, this has changed for a while now. SCH outdoes WHM by quite a bit while AST does more so long as you have Lightspeed up and extend it.

    That being said, I do feel like it's more simple to holy spam and assize with WHM, it's just not the strongest anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    No, this has changed for a while now. SCH outdoes WHM by quite a bit while AST does more so long as you have Lightspeed up and extend it.

    That being said, I do feel like it's more simple to holy spam and assize with WHM, it's just not the strongest anymore.
    I figured mobs in dungeons wouldn't live long enough for SCH to squeeze all they can out of Bane and Miasma II, and that Chain Stratagem wouldn't be as strong with only 4 players, even less so on groups, but I'll take your word for it.
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    Even without the full extent of dots its still better. Miasma II spam is really powerful. I used to run all my dungeons as WHM but no longer do that, SCH streamlines it way more
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    Last edited by EaMett; 11-26-2018 at 12:22 AM.

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    Kira Kagamine
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    I prefer WHM in the earlier dungeons, because Scholar is boring when you only attack and EOS can heal everything. Also, enemies die so fast you can't do much with your DOTs. AST is also boring because you don't have the fun cards yet. It basically has the same abilities as the WHM.

    Around level 40, I prefer Scholar. Around 50-60, I prefer AST.

    I have always found WHM to be the easiest though if you want to get used to healing.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    I'd like to add here that Holy also has a stun component to it so it adds to the mitigation available, making it a more useful tool when you combine both the offensive and defensive capabilities of the spell.

    Personally, I feel all healers could speed run each dungeon equally as effectively, it's just a matter of your comfort with the kits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I'd like to add here that Holy also has a stun component to it so it adds to the mitigation available, making it a more useful tool when you combine both the offensive and defensive capabilities of the spell.

    Personally, I feel all healers could speed run each dungeon equally as effectively, it's just a matter of your comfort with the kits.
    This is also true. While I just said that SCH it's better at speedrunning a dungeon, I personally can't dish out that sort of DPS without having the tank in mortal peril as a SCH.
    SCH is on paper the best, but if you're more comfortable on WHM or AST you'll have a faster time with them.
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    The answer is always scholar.
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Trust me, if you are going to be farming dungeons you won't shave a significant portion off your time unless you aren't DPS'ing at all. You are going to want to pick an easy class where you can turn on a 2nd monitor and watch some shows while you DPS & Heal a dungeon.

    WHM is amazing for this with it's regens and holy. Alternate thin air, and Lucid dream so you don't run out of mana casting Holy. Don't even bother with Aero III or Aero II if you don't want to, but make sure you at least spam Stone IV on the bosses. Like Exiled Tonberry said, I'm pretty sure you can squeeze out more DPS out with a SCH, but it takes more effort. That sort of thing really drains people if you have to run like 6 dungeons in a row, it makes it a lot more manageable if you can chill and watch some netflix while you did a dungeon.

    Edit: Also Benediction is a life saver if you go brain dead hitting Stone IV on the boss while not looking at the tanks health because you were watching Konan. >.>
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    Last edited by Ftail; 12-03-2018 at 11:44 AM.

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