Things that make me go HMMMM... And why they are not in the game yet.

[Melichoir]

An issue with button bloat is that theyre homogenizing the classes rather than distilling them down to core identities. A lot of this has to do with making sure you arent 'locked' into bringing certain classes. So theres a lot of 'repeat' in regards to skills.

But the real reason for button bloat is probably to MANY options. Were given everything at max level. That shouldnt be the case.

The only real way to 100% fix button bloat is to force a maximum amount of keys and push customization based on comp/fight.

As an example, youd have 24 skill slots total, and you have to pick which skills you want to bring depending the fight. If you were going as a DRK, you may want more mitigation based skills for a hard hitting boss. for pulling you may want more aoe and aggro based skills. If youre doing a fight with harsher dps checks, you may want to go with skills that are more Damage orientated.

The higher in levels, youll have more variety of combinations and the like, and more selection based on the fight. Obviously therell be core skills youll want to bring every time (basic damage combos and the like). And it doestn matter how high lvl things get in the end, because youll always be limited to 24 so its a matter of selecting the most important 24 skills, even if you have twice that many. More skills just means more nuance.

There will be no "Optimal one size fits all" skill build if the fights are designed right. What I mean is that while you could technically make a build that encompasses MOST everything, for maximum effect youll need to customize skills bsaed on the fights. This would work better because in casual content you could have a general build, but in EX or Savage youd have to customize for the fight/group comp to maximize success.

Thats about the only way I can think of to fix button bloat without any massive issues.

[Kurando]

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You know we kinda had this with the previous cross role system when players could only take 5 of the 10 in to combat. One problem many of us experienced though was players not having certain actions when we really needed them, i.e. Exdeath and the Doom debuff, o7s and silencing Ultros etc. Definitely if players know what they are going in to sure they can prepare the relevant actions, but with Roulette it's a bit harder to predict and also new players may not know what is the best thing to take before the fight starts.

Anyway it would be nice to have options on actions to pick and choose from but honestly I'd feel safer content can be handled knowing players have them all rather than a few.

[Deceptus]

The only real way to 100% fix button bloat is to force a maximum amount of keys and push customization based on comp/fight.

They tried that with role skills. Problem is, when 6 buttons are "mandatory" and you only get 5 slots, something has to give. This affected healers the most. Tanks just below them.