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    I haven't played MMOs long enough to really have much of impactful opinion, considering my MMO life started back in 3.56. In truth, I am in a 'wait and see' mode. It has me curious and I happen to be a solo player, so I don't have much angst towards the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I haven't played MMOs long enough to really have much of impactful opinion, considering my MMO life started back in 3.56. In truth, I am in a 'wait and see' mode. It has me curious and I happen to be a solo player, so I don't have much angst towards the job.
    It's fine it's getting the solo content and very few on our side are against it. We would just like the ability to use blue mage throughout the full game as you can any other DoW or DoM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon041065 View Post
    It's fine it's getting the solo content and very few on our side are against it. We would just like the ability to use blue mage throughout the full game as you can any other DoW or DoM.
    Same. I would like the ability to raid with it. I mean, I love NIN and I guess I'm actually good with BRD, but I want a caster that I can main.
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    B) Added like a normal class but gutted to the point it wasn't really a BLU mage just to fit into the role system
    Have you ever heard of the concept of a biased survey question? This is a textbook example.

    You clearly have an opinion already you're dying to share. If you want to say your peace just go ahead.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    D) Added as it is, with skills that it have being monitored and the most balanced ones being picked for a "matchmaking/current content mandatory" set that allows normal use of matchmaking and entrance into the most recent savage raid and extreme primals.

    There is no reason why we can't have both. The full arsenal won't be available freely, that's obvious. The most current raid tier shouldn't allow the overpowered Blue Mage either. But there is no issue with picking the most balanced skills, make a fixed, uncustomizable set of skills that are automatically picked for Duty Finder or current savage/extreme party finder parties, and leave the rest of skills for the remaining content that wouldn't be broken by an overpowered Blue Mage (past raid tiers through party finder, soloing etc.).

    That being said, it does require time and extended testing, so I see nothing bad in implementing it without those features. As I've been saying since the day of the live letter, this is an experiment in progress. It will evolve. The worst thing that can be done to it is making developers think that it's either one or the other, when the best option is both.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Insta-death...Yoshi-P thinking Level 5 Death should have 100% success rate on the Omegas in O12S is the exception to the rule.
    To be fair, there were instant-kills in Final Fantasy that did work universally. The most obvious is Zanmato of Yojimnbo in FFX which in its revised form could be forced to be a very frequent skill that will instantly kill anything at all in the game, including the most secret super-boss. Then there is the fact that Phoenix Down is instant-kill on any zombie/undead, even if it's a boss, in some games at least. Doom Train and Yu-Yaevon come to mind. Though bosses aren't actually undead usually and cannot be made zombies.

    Yoshida also didn't say anything about it being 100% skill. But even if it's got 5% chance of working, it's still going to be broken.
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    Last edited by kikix12; 12-08-2018 at 07:05 AM.

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    Gonna wait and see how it feels to play.
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    Oraina Fhey
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    I'm fairly neutral on this and will wait patiently to see what we get. At worst I drop it and never touch it again; otherwise it could be a fun thing to do in between content patches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Would have rather had the class:
    A) Added like it is.
    B) Added like a normal class but gutted to the point it wasn't really a BLU mage just to fit into the role system
    C) Not added at all?
    I'd rather have had a proper job that's also a proper Blue mage.

    Rather suspiciously that option is missing from your post.
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    The both option seems to be missing, but okay.


    That said, combat jobs get put into a role no matter what, always have been. BLU's identity is not being roleless, it is just learning and using monster spells. Full Stop.
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    C.

    I would rather have seen something new and unique to XIV.
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