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    Wild Man's Idea: Limited Heroic Jobs

    Now before you all shoot me for daring to mention limited jobs in a positive light, I honestly think it's a good foundation for a new type of content. With that in mind I propse to you, Limited Heroic Jobs! I'm sure most of you have heard of one of SE's mobile games known as Mobius: Final Fantasy which in my opinion is a very high quality game in terms of mobile gameplay and story but very painful in terms of it's gacha memes. In said game, of the various iconic jobs you can play as, there are a handful of jobs based on other ff characters such as Tidus or Cloud from FF10 and FF7 respectively.

    The protagonist basically goes full cosplay mode wearing their clothes, reciting a few of their battle lines and utilizing a carbon copy of their movesets and ultimates. Quite thrilling really, on top of that there are about 4 or 5 legendary jobs where you basically play as the actual character rather than dress up as them like our very own Y'sthola but that sadly is neither here or there.
    With all that in mind limited heroic jobs would basically be that, Iconic protagonists from the ff franchise in the form of jobs with all the flare and accuracy you'd expect from a carbon copy "cloud" or "squall" themed job in limited job form of course.

    Now you're probably thinking "what is wrong with OP?" or "what on earth lead to this idea?" and to answer the first question, nothing I'm perfectly sane I promise. To the second question, with the reveal of limited jobs as a whole, I couldn't help but harken back to the age old Lightning returns event as I looked in awe at our Lightning npc during fates and thought to myself "man I wish I could do that too like a lightning job or something..." and ultimately thought of mobius and the possibility of making that a reality. Not to mention all of the iconic ff outfits we've been getting over ther years could get proper use for all those "roleplay" characters.

    Now I'm not gonna sit here and "white knight" the whole limited jobs idea since I know people were really excited to do group content with BLU and I'm sure the last thing they expected was BLU to even come out in the first place much less be considered solo "content" BUT should things go well with this "new idea of content" and we get more jobs under the limited flag who can say what the future could hold? Get a frequent number of jobs per expansion cycle? Maybe design GROUP content wether casual or hardcore around said limited jobs finally establishing proper midcore content into the game? Maybe throw iconic ff protag jobs into the mix? Maybe I'm giving them too much credit considering how "well" received diadem, eureka, and side content like lords of vermilion was? Who knows! I'm just nuts and this is a wall of text you skimmed or actually read for some crazy reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
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    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

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    Actually. I like this idea better than the “classes that won’t work” idea. Especially if each gives a funny name to remember them by. Ie: FF2/Firion “Weaponmaster”. FFV, Bartz (an actual class from it) “Mimic”. FFVI, Setzer, Gambler. They aren’t official jobs, or even anything special themselves. But if like Weaponmaster could equip any weapon and have a slew of abilities from everything, that’d be cool. IMO.

    Also, don’t call yourself crazy based off of other people’s opinions, especially when we don’t know it the content is good yet lol. We all loved the idea of Eireka before that came out, and then I hated it before Pyros came out then I liked it. People only are hostile because it’s happening to Blue Mage first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanitas View Post
    Now I'm not gonna sit here and "white knight" the whole limited jobs idea since I know people were really excited to do group content with BLU and I'm sure the last thing they expected was BLU to even come out in the first place much less be considered solo "content" BUT should things go well with this "new idea of content" and we get more jobs under the limited flag who can say what the future could hold? Get a frequent number of jobs per expansion cycle? Maybe design GROUP content wether casual or hardcore around said limited jobs finally establishing proper midcore content into the game? Maybe throw iconic ff protag jobs into the mix? Maybe I'm giving them too much credit considering how "well" received diadem, eureka, and side content like lords of vermilion was? Who knows! I'm just nuts and this is a wall of text you skimmed or actually read for some crazy reason.
    I would have to say "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" unless it was some side piece of content in the Golden Saucer or something that didn't remove possible jobs from being available in the whole game. Like if we take your example of Lightning, I would be fine with it if it was it's own little thing but didn't remove the possibility of a gunblade job in the future (yes I know we are getting the weapon in 5.0). I have no issues with side content as long as it doesn't come at the price of not getting jobs/getting jobs with restrictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    People only are hostile because it’s happening to Blue Mage first.
    No there would still be backlash if BST or PUP or any other highly requested FF job was turned into strictly solo/side content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon041065 View Post
    I would have to say "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" unless it was some side piece of content in the Golden Saucer or something that didn't remove possible jobs from being available in the whole game. Like if we take your example of Lightning, I would be fine with it if it was it's own little thing but didn't remove the possibility of a gunblade job in the future (yes I know we are getting the weapon in 5.0). I have no issues with side content as long as it doesn't come at the price of not getting jobs/getting jobs with restrictions.



    No there would still be backlash if BST or PUP or any other highly requested FF job was turned into strictly solo/side content.
    Now I get where you're coming from I mainly mean more the more outlandish jobs that you think to yourself "if they put this in the game it'll either break the game or they'll butcher it to fit the holy trinity" of course this comes down to wether people are even ok with that and considering the reception of blu being solo "content" , I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanitas View Post
    Now I get where you're coming from I mainly mean more the more outlandish jobs that you think to yourself "if they put this in the game it'll either break the game or they'll butcher it to fit the holy trinity" of course this comes down to wether people are even ok with that and considering the reception of blu being solo "content" , I dunno.
    Yeah I'm a big supporter of the limited job concept IF it was just things like onion knight or freelancer that have really no possible way of being in the game besides a strictly solo system without a major overhaul of the game's systems.

    To me, they would have to keep the "can use almost any armor/weapon/magic type" aspect of these jobs since that would be their identity so would have to be a solo thing or they basically put in a system that would let you change between "job setups" during combat like in the Shadowbringers trailer. Would definitely be cool but a huge task. Myself and obviously plenty of others don't feel that blue mage's identity is so wrapped up in what the spells have done in whichever FF game in the past. That as long as the job can use enemy abilities as a major part of their gameplay and that the spells FELT similar then that would be fine. So if you use phrases like "butcher it to fit the holy trinity", you will get some pushback because what is a classic job's identity isn't quite concrete between everyone that plays the game.



    I also liked this idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    My comments thus far have been pretty negative, so I'll try to be positive this go.

    Personally, I feel that adding limited jobs - of jobs that have already been created in other FF games that people are potentially looking forward to - is a mistake. If they were set on doing something like this, then do it with a NEW job. Don't make Blue Mage a limited job, make a brand new job that is limited instead. Leave the jobs that have a history as full jobs.

    Or to offer ideas - make limited jobs non combat.

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