Drk: worst designed class

[347SPECTRE]

But then you wouldnt be able to use your AoE emnity generator (Unleash 2.0) without using 50 blackblood and you're expending blackblood to carry out the essential task of generating enmity, instead of it being a bonus action.

You could have it so, if you don't have enough blood it does normal unleash, if you have enough blood it does Quietus

[shao32]

But then you wouldnt be able to use your AoE emnity generator (Unleash 2.0) without using 50 blackblood and you're expending blackblood to carry out the essential task of generating enmity, instead of it being a bonus action.

What 347Spectre say, it's basically a temporal upgrade like RDM melee skills, you can use it but with enough gauge will become more powerful, unleash will be still usable and when you have enough blood you will have a better version of it.

[Seraphor]

You could have it so, if you don't have enough blood it does normal unleash, if you have enough blood it does Quietus

What if you want to use Unleash and not Quietus? What if you want to pull first and save your Quietus for when you've lost some MP?
It doesn't sound like it should be Quietus for me, just some upgraded version of Unleash that deals more damage... oh wait, that's Abyssal Drain, only the upgrade is that it can be targeted instead of being just around you.

[shao32]

What if you want to use Unleash and not Quietus? What if you want to pull first and save your Quietus for when you've lost some MP?
It doesn't sound like it should be Quietus for me, just some upgraded version of Unleash that deals more damage... oh wait, that's Abyssal Drain, only the upgrade is that it can be targeted instead of being just around you.

Well I agree with you in will reduce quietus versatility but it won't be a huge loose either since quietus on mass pulling is up pretty often so pulling with quietus is not bad either.

Idk if you even tank sometimes but the difference of being around you or around the target is pretty big and will be a Nerf in that way overcomplicating DRK aoe agro generation by reducing it to abyssal drain targeret aoe and I personally don't want unleash and abyssal merge for that reason, and I don't think it should be never, in any case just remove abyssal, I don't want it to disappear but will be better that just lose unleah entirely.

[Seraphor]

Yes there is a difference, and trust me, as someone who has macrod AD and Unleash onto the same button, it can be jarring when you expect one and get the other. However its the opposite way you're implying, AD is almost always better than Unleash, free targeting is better than it being centred on you. You dont have to waste time positioning yourself before you use it.

[shao32]

Yes there is a difference, and trust me, as someone who has macrod AD and Unleash onto the same button, it can be jarring when you expect one and get the other. However its the opposite way you're implying, AD is almost always better than Unleash, free targeting is better than it being centred on you. You dont have to waste time positioning yourself before you use it.

sorry but you are mostly wrong, aoe free targeting is pretty limited to the target size and targets position, a clear example is the burn where the worms and other adds are to big for abyssal since hits the center of then and you can't reach properly the rest of the adds until they are properly stacked, when a big pack of medium and big size monsters spam or are just there AD is just terrible to gathering all of then properly and this happens in almost every dungeon, a wrong targeting and you will waste AD and you healer/dps will get a nice hit, many groups of adds are based with a big add in the middle and others are just spread around the room, others spam a bit far of eachother when you get in to a area like in arboretum were the Dorkkopur spam around you, if you target one you will what? reach 1/3 of then? even less, you will waste much more time using AD on then or just waiting until they decide to go after you or you healer to build agro properly compared to use 1-2 unleash and get all of then quickly.

unleash is far superior in gathering all of then quickly both spread or just random groups of adds with any size specially bcs we charge to the middle of then so we don't waste any time as you say, AD is only superior in potency and needs the adds being properly positionated or you will loose the agro bcs you are missing one of 2, other thing about unleash is superior is you have a clear view of the size of the spell compared to AD, AD is just an aoe unmend so is not even comparable to unleash at all on how it works.

[Jandor]

Shouldn't Abyssal Drain replace Unmend more than Unleash? If it replaces anything.

Button consolidation isn't a huge concern for DRK, and if it's done it'd be better as part of a rework, rather than just awkward upgrading buttons with 'sort of similar but not really' abilities.

[Derio]

Unleash, AD and Unmend should stay. DRK doesnt have a button problem. PLD and WAR have more actions than DRK.

[Hierro]

Unleash, AD and Unmend should stay. DRK doesnt have a button problem. PLD and WAR have more actions than DRK.

This! Everything has a time and place for everything.

[Tint]

Unleash, AD and Unmend should stay. DRK doesnt have a button problem. PLD and WAR have more actions than DRK.

Yes please.

I really don't want to miss either of these skills. Unleash is just too practical and easy to use to miss it. I would rather get rid of Abyssal Drain and buff Unleashs potency, but having a ranged aoe is awesome while dodging ground markers or grabbing adds from ranged.

Both skills are are usefull and have their own niche, they are not interchangeable.

When there are skills wich are more button bloat than usefull then I'll point at Dark Passenger and Quietus. Just bring back Blood Price for mana regen.