Drk: worst designed class

[Seraphor]

Was playing DRK today and realized that Abyssal Drain should have been a trait that changed Unleash to Abyssal Drain. Once you get AD, you rarely ever use Unleash.

Agreed, I've actually macrod these to the same button, so if i have a target it uses AD, and if i dont, Unleash, mainly due to xhotbar space, but of course that's not as effective as having it without a macro.

[shao32]

You know? I preffer if they consolidate unleash with quietus, and when you have 50 blood unleash become quietus rather that transform abyssal drain since both skills works a bit different.

[Seraphor]

This could also work, as they're both centered around you, however both Unleash and Abyssal Drain function as enmity increasing skills. Quietus is a damaging/MP-regen skill.
I think it terms of 'muscle memory' I use AD for the same reason I use Unleash, while Quietus is used for something completely different.
That said, I could probably get used to it if they did do this.

[shao32]

the thing is abyssal drain area effect is diferent since is around the target and not around you so you perception of the effective area can change constantly depending of the position of the target with will make DRK pulling being more harder, i highly preffer unleash remain as its excelent mass control circle area and i will hate a bit depend only of abyssal for mass pulling bcs of that, if we want to consolidate skills just add emity to quietus and make it a direct upgrade of unleash with 50 blood rather that transform unleash to abyssal forever and have more problems on mass pulling in general, less skilled players will have a lot more problems for this.

Edit: I will rather update unmend to abyssal drain by trait or just by dark arts since both are similar so we don't loose unleash area.

[Seraphor]

the thing is abyssal drain area effect is diferent since is around the target and not around you so you perception of the effective area can change constantly depending of the position of the target with will make DRK pulling being more harder, i highly preffer unleash remain as its excelent mass control circle area and i will hate a bit depend only of abyssal for mass pulling bcs of that, if we want to consolidate skills just add emity to quietus and make it a direct upgrade of unleash with 50 blood rather that transform unleash to abyssal forever and have more problems on mass pulling in general, less skilled players will have a lot more problems for this.

Edit: I will rather update unmend to abyssal drain by trait or just by dark arts since both are similar so we don't loose unleash area.

But then you wouldnt be able to use your AoE emnity generator (Unleash 2.0) without using 50 blackblood and you're expending blackblood to carry out the essential task of generating enmity, instead of it being a bonus action.

[shao32]

But then you wouldnt be able to use your AoE emnity generator (Unleash 2.0) without using 50 blackblood and you're expending blackblood to carry out the essential task of generating enmity, instead of it being a bonus action.

What 347Spectre say, it's basically a temporal upgrade like RDM melee skills, you can use it but with enough gauge will become more powerful, unleash will be still usable and when you have enough blood you will have a better version of it.

[347SPECTRE]

But then you wouldnt be able to use your AoE emnity generator (Unleash 2.0) without using 50 blackblood and you're expending blackblood to carry out the essential task of generating enmity, instead of it being a bonus action.

You could have it so, if you don't have enough blood it does normal unleash, if you have enough blood it does Quietus

[Seraphor]

You could have it so, if you don't have enough blood it does normal unleash, if you have enough blood it does Quietus

What if you want to use Unleash and not Quietus? What if you want to pull first and save your Quietus for when you've lost some MP?
It doesn't sound like it should be Quietus for me, just some upgraded version of Unleash that deals more damage... oh wait, that's Abyssal Drain, only the upgrade is that it can be targeted instead of being just around you.

[shao32]

What if you want to use Unleash and not Quietus? What if you want to pull first and save your Quietus for when you've lost some MP?
It doesn't sound like it should be Quietus for me, just some upgraded version of Unleash that deals more damage... oh wait, that's Abyssal Drain, only the upgrade is that it can be targeted instead of being just around you.

Well I agree with you in will reduce quietus versatility but it won't be a huge loose either since quietus on mass pulling is up pretty often so pulling with quietus is not bad either.

Idk if you even tank sometimes but the difference of being around you or around the target is pretty big and will be a Nerf in that way overcomplicating DRK aoe agro generation by reducing it to abyssal drain targeret aoe and I personally don't want unleash and abyssal merge for that reason, and I don't think it should be never, in any case just remove abyssal, I don't want it to disappear but will be better that just lose unleah entirely.

[Seraphor]

Yes there is a difference, and trust me, as someone who has macrod AD and Unleash onto the same button, it can be jarring when you expect one and get the other. However its the opposite way you're implying, AD is almost always better than Unleash, free targeting is better than it being centred on you. You dont have to waste time positioning yourself before you use it.