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    QOL Retainer Management options

    Since players can have up to 10 retainers now. Think SE can maybe add some QOL management Options into it?

    1.) Auto Sales adjust - click this button to automatically adjust all your sales on all your retainers so your sales are the cheapest.

    - HQ items will adjust against the cheapest HQ item on sale by 1 gil. NQ items will adjust against NQ items. If you want to adjust HQ items against NQ items, you might have to do it manually.

    - Imagine having 10 retainers with 100 different items, and trying to adjust their selling price everyday...

    2.) Mass Collect Ventures and Reassign Retainers to previously completed ventures. - click this option to collect all of your retainers Venture spoils and reassign them to the last completed venture.

    - no more having to click every single retainer and reassigning them every single hour.

    *** They should also allow this 2 functions in the companion app .
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    1) No. If you don't want to spend the time managing your items for sale, then don't put so many up.
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    So, have a program to automatically undercut people by one gil? These already exist but theyŕe not allowed by SE. The only difference seems that you would push a single button to make it happen. If you do not want to put in the work of constantly selling max items and sending out retainers, then just don´t do it.

    Especially don´t lock this stuff behind the companion app.
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    Last edited by DevonEllwood; 12-05-2018 at 11:22 PM. Reason: laptop with broken keys

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    Just imagine everyone using that autofuction for number 1. Or even just 2 people. Everything would instantly go to 1g. (Say cheapest is 1k. Retainer A sets it to 999. Retainer B sets it to 998. Retainer A rebuttals and sets it down to 997. Retainer B sets it to 996 because B is no scrub. Retainer A refuses to yield for he has to get that sale for his master and sets it to 995. Retainer B sets it to 994, refusing to be threatened by A. A sets to 993 and so on and so on)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Since players can have up to 10 retainers now. Think SE can maybe add some QOL management Options into it?

    1.) Auto Sales adjust - click this button to automatically adjust all your sales on all your retainers so your sales are the cheapest.

    - HQ items will adjust against the cheapest HQ item on sale by 1 gil. NQ items will adjust against NQ items. If you want to adjust HQ items against NQ items, you might have to do it manually.
    I feel like if you're too lazy to set your own prices then maybe you don't deserve to make money.

    Blind undercutting can be bad. I often see it go to the point that the mb prices are below vendor prices. Imagine how silly it would get if we could all do this with a press of a button.

    Also sometimes it's better to not set your price below a certain threshold and just wait. If the item is highly sought it will eventually get sold. If you're not in a rush to make gil, then wait. You'll make more in the long run.

    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    - Imagine having 10 retainers with 100 different items, and trying to adjust their selling price everyday...
    These people are an extreme minority. I have five retainers and in my 3+ years of playing I haven't personally met anyone with more than me. I don't see SE bringing in a feature with such a tiny amount of people in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    2.) Mass Collect Ventures and Reassign Retainers to previously completed ventures. - click this option to collect all of your retainers Venture spoils and reassign them to the last completed venture.
    Now this is actually a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Since players can have up to 10 retainers now. Think SE can maybe add some QOL management Options into it?

    1.) Auto Sales adjust - click this button to automatically adjust all your sales on all your retainers so your sales are the cheapest.

    - HQ items will adjust against the cheapest HQ item on sale by 1 gil. NQ items will adjust against NQ items. If you want to adjust HQ items against NQ items, you might have to do it manually.

    - Imagine having 10 retainers with 100 different items, and trying to adjust their selling price everyday...
    Unless you give an option to set a minimum price you'll see people putting their prices really low as a bait to wait other players to use this feature blindly to buy items really cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    2.) Mass Collect Ventures and Reassign Retainers to previously completed ventures. - click this option to collect all of your retainers Venture spoils and reassign them to the last completed venture.

    - no more having to click every single retainer and reassigning them every single hour.

    *** They should also allow this 2 functions in the companion app .
    I agree. It's really boring to reassign every single retainer.
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    Make undercutting that easy and everyone will just be constantly hitting the button until everything costs 1gil, especially if it's added to the companion app.

    I'd agree with a 'Retainer Overview' menu, were you can collect and reassign ventures for all your retainers from one screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Blind undercutting can be bad. I often see it go to the point that the mb prices are below vendor prices. Imagine how silly it would get if we could all do this with a press of a button.
    I see this all the time with Demimateria. It's almost constantly around 10-20g cheaper than vendor prices. Is this just blind undercutting or is it there for a reason, like people trying to make Demimateria available to people who can't get it any other way?
    But that seems pointless considering the bucketloads of Demimateria I've gotten from Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I see this all the time with Demimateria. It's almost constantly around 10-20g cheaper than vendor prices. Is this just blind undercutting or is it there for a reason, like people trying to make Demimateria available to people who can't get it any other way?
    But that seems pointless considering the bucketloads of Demimateria I've gotten from Eureka.
    Are you referring to the clear demi-materia exclusively? I really don´t know why people even sell that stuff since its only purpose is vendor trash. People are literally just selling money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    1.) Auto Sales adjust - click this button to automatically adjust all your sales on all your retainers so your sales are the cheapest.
    And everything on the marketboard would be down to 1 gil within the first day. Undercutting is so stupid to begin with, we certainly don't need to automate such ridiculous behavior. Just list it at the price you want to sell it and leave it there.


    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    2.) Mass Collect Ventures and Reassign Retainers to previously completed ventures.
    This, on the other hand, is a pretty good suggestion.


    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    Are you referring to the clear demi-materia exclusively? I really don´t know why people even sell that stuff since its only purpose is vendor trash. People are literally just selling money.
    I've heard of people buying up clear demi-materia and allagan coins when they're transferring servers if they have more gil than they're allowed to transfer with. So yeah, they're essentially buying another form of money just in order to hold some of their money as items. People doing that are often willing to pay a premium to be able to, so you can sometimes sell the demi-materia and coins for more than their listed value, though it might take a while to sell, as people aren't doing this every day. (I've sold a lot of Allagan coins at double face value. That seems to be about as high as most people are willing to go.)

    People selling it at or below its listed value, though... I have no idea why they're doing that.
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