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  1. #31
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    Nariel's Avatar
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    If you grew bored of something, that doesn't mean the difficulty was too easy, it means that you don't find challenging content fun. It's true that you can get Savage content cleared with a whole bunch of randoms through PF (but not always without battle scars), but usually that means you have to already have those fights on farm and are just looking for quick clears when your static members aren't available. I don't know what Savage content you've been playing, but you still need communication to get things done because you simply can't trust people to follow the most basic of directions, especially in PF, and sometimes bad things happen that need to be improvised on the fly.

    I can't imagine running things through PF for Chaos when people don't know what longitude and latitude are. Hell, people can't get Starboard and Larboard still.

    Savage requires coordination and communication still no matter what you're doing, basic things that people can't even do in dungeons half of the time in this game already. And when I asked for competency and actual effort in dungeons, I get "Omg, you don't pay my sub!" nonsense.
    Because people are bad doesn't mean its hard.

    And yeah my boreness isn't related to difficulty at all its more about seeing the same boss but harder isn't my kind of content, they sure not are easy, but not as hard as people claim it is.

    All I say is it will be difficult for the devs to come with a new easier than savage but still harder than normal raid/extreme without people wanting a easier version of it or a harder one anyway.

    The middleground could be the diadem/eureka slot, an optional activity provinding a fair challenge.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 12-04-2018 at 03:52 AM.

  2. #32
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmiley_Bjakkzz View Post
    I do not like being gated on gearing my stuff. This is not fun or meaningful in an obvious way... It does not create more interesting gameplay through limitations and is incredibly frustrating.

    levels are fun to do with DPS while I wait for dungeon queues!
    gearing are the most fun way to progress level build for me!

    It feel REALLY bad to have my play experience cut short because of the currency reset system. Please just let me do the grind as many times as I want!
    *looks at what WoW is doing with BFA*

    Nope, do not want that. Hard pass. While I'd like to see more options in game for gear, having tomestones and other currencies as guaranteed rewards to build up is useful.
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  3. #33
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    Koukie Monster
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    *looks at what WoW is doing with BFA*

    Nope, do not want that. Hard pass. While I'd like to see more options in game for gear, having tomestones and other currencies as guaranteed rewards to build up is useful.
    I am definitely passing for that reason too. Its one of the reason I stopped playing that game. I don't want it here too.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    *looks at what WoW is doing with BFA*

    Nope, do not want that. Hard pass. While I'd like to see more options in game for gear, having tomestones and other currencies as guaranteed rewards to build up is useful.
    I don't play WoW. What are they doing with BFA?
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  5. #35
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Ok sure, we'll take out tomestones. Instead, you'll have to raid savage and beat the final floor for a chance at loot. Every time you beat the final boss (you have to beat 1,2, and 3, in that order, before you're allowed to take on 4), there's a 0.001% chance of a chest dropping. In this chest, there's a 0.001% chance it'll be gear (99.999% chance it'll just be fireworks), with a 0.001% chance it'll be gear usable by the job anyone in your group is playing as.

    If you get rid of tomestones, that's what we'll get instead. Maybe not to that extreme, but knowing SE it won't be far off. Brutal RNG upon brutal RNG upon brutal RNG.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I don't play WoW. What are they doing with BFA?
    Basically, they have layers upon layers of RNG to keep people running content. High level gear can also drop from casual content like dungeons and etc, which has many raiders complaining since the argument becomes "what's the point of raiding when any joker can run a dungeon and get the best gear?"
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I don't play WoW. What are they doing with BFA?
    RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG for loot. Very little to no control to compensate for the shortcomings of what RNG determines you're not getting. As much as the repeating tomestone system personally irritates me, at least it gives some measure of control over gear upgrades: you have an idea of when you'll get X upgrade, BFA is running along the lines of you don't know if you'll get X and even if you do get X it may not even be an upgrade.
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  8. #38
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    Hmm that sounds like how you get logos actions....
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  9. #39
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Hmm that sounds like how you get logos actions....
    But that's one small part of 1 area. not the only way to get better gear
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  10. #40
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    Ow. If Blizzard's terrible writing hadn't driven me out already, that would've killed WoW for me.
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