Dang it's this thread again. I thought we mostly agreed that most of your rotation would either have to do piddly or nothing and be interrupted a lot for any of this to work while the on level people could do just as much damage while getting away from pressing less buttons. What I mean by interrupted a lot is that the monsters would die too fast to get through some job's rotations. Yes for some people seeing what cool awesome skills they'll get in the future will urge them on, but I feel that they're in the minority. Also just because you tell a not synced/geared tank to not worry about it too much and you can get through a run fine doesn't mean it can't be disheartening to the ones who actually care. It can also end up spitting out tanks like some posters on here who think face pulling is ok at higher levels and then wonder why they get kicked later on.