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    Player
    Aylis's Avatar
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nabril View Post
    This is not a new concept- There are other MMOs who have pulled this off. It's not impossible. It can be done. This company has the money to pull this off. It's a multi-billion dollar company. People should be rewarded for making maximum level- not have it taken away from them- also, the more practice I get at my max level rotation, the better I'll be at it.
    Yes there are other MMO's that did it and no it's not impossible. However those MMO's were build from the ground up to work with that system. FFXIV was not. Multi billion company or not they're probably not willing to rework a majority of the game when its currant system is working. Very few companies are willing to make that kinda change. SWG tried and we saw how that turned out. It goes beyond just tuning down abilities. The way skills are obtained would have to be changed to where everyone has their full kits before they even set foot in a dungeon so new players could be on par with older players. Which changes quests for abilities and possibly reduced kits overall to make certain a player is dungeon ready with their full arsenal ready to go.
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Lets see...dps with all of his skills and a tank fresh level x. To enable this tank to properly tank all the skills would've to be balanced to lowi content, which would lead to the next complains that level 70 player do have all their skills but have to do their full 70 rotations to do the same amount of dps as a level x dps. I doubt that anyone wants to read the threads that will get opened when that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Lets see...dps with all of his skills and a tank fresh level x. To enable this tank to properly tank all the skills would've to be balanced to lowi content, which would lead to the next complains that level 70 player do have all their skills but have to do their full 70 rotations to do the same amount of dps as a level x dps. I doubt that anyone wants to read the threads that will get opened when that happens.
    I sincerely doubt you'll see many complaints given the complaints now are people hate they can't use their level 70 abilities. I don't care about putting more work in, I'd rather put in that work so I can use Fell Cleave and Inner Release compared to spamming Inner Beast or sitting around Stance-less.
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I sincerely doubt you'll see many complaints given the complaints now are people hate they can't use their level 70 abilities. I don't care about putting more work in, I'd rather put in that work so I can use Fell Cleave and Inner Release compared to spamming Inner Beast or sitting around Stance-less.
    Oh you will see threads where people start complaining that they have to do their complete 70 rotation just to do the dps of the other level 30 (for example) dps. Because thats how SE would've to balance this otherwhise people will start kicking players that are not level 70 because they hold them back in low level dungeons.

    Sure its annoying if you get synced down and can't use your skills, but the alternative is not better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Drakkaelus's Avatar
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    Drakkaelus Grimkaiser
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I don't know why people are acting like this is some crazy impossible request. Pretty much any other game that has level-scaling/mentoring does it in a way that doesn't involve neutering your character.

    I'd like to see this happen, personally. I don't care about the damage. I just don't want to be stuck in another dungeon and having to choose between spamming Fast Blade -> Savage Blade for 30 minutes or stabbing myself in the face to end the tedium.
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    Kira Ayakima
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 80
    No. I want level sync stay. You can unsync too.
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    Nova Slayer
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 30
    Being level sync or spell lock off does suck I agree but I can live with that.

    What I wish they would change are the rewards. Let say your a level 50, 60, even 65 level character and you get stuck in a level 15 dungeon (tends to happen to me alot) yes you get a good amount of xp but that it. Leveling wise there not very rewarding when it come to gear and if you have a whole party of sync players in said same dungeon then it even worse and all that gear get wasted.

    I would like it if the gear reward could be sync up to what your level is. Now I'm not saying they should reward level 70 player that way or take away from max level player or the new dungeon/raids, but it be nice when leveling a new class/job.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Novaslayer View Post
    Let say your a level 50, 60, even 65 level character and you get stuck in a level 15 dungeon (tends to happen to me alot) yes you get a good amount of xp but that it. Leveling wise there not very rewarding when it come to gear and if you have a whole party of sync players in said same dungeon then it even worse and all that gear get wasted.
    Even speaking for just myself, there are times where I don't mind getting a low level dungeon in roulette, and other times where I want something where more of my abilities are available. I'm not sure how roulettes work, but I am sure it can be arranged that if all players are synced, certain content is eliminated from the roulette. I'm pretty sure we could all live with that. What gets to me though is that roulettes almost always throw you in some kind of ARR content, and it gets extremely tedious. I despised it when they combined 50 and 60 roulettes, and they will likely get consolidated again next expansion. T_T
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I'm not sure how roulettes work, but I am sure it can be arranged that if all players are synced, certain content is eliminated from the roulette
    This is one of my bigger issues. If everyone is 60+, why are they getting put in Tam-Tara? Yes, it's a "roulette", but that's not fun for anyone involved.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    That's not going to happen either. They want higher level players to progress primarily by running higher level content, not just keep themselves geared up by running Sastasha for days on end. Daily roulettes are enough of a concession on this.

    That's kind of how RPGs work in general; you start outleveling around a town, stuff gradually becomes not worthwhile, you move on to the next town.
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