Raiders, is this normal (O10S question)?

[WhyAmIHere]

I suggest turning off the parser and just enjoy the game.

you're biased and not helping.

Stop that.

[Sylvina]

I suggest turning off the parser and just enjoy the game.

100% a grey parse is nothing to be ashamed of. fact is a group of entirely grey parsers can still clear most of the fights. all which matters is doing enough dps to clear. if you want to improve beyond that great but beating yourself up for "underperforming" will not help you. (Fun fact most grey parsers are above the REAL average due to only a tiny percentage of players actually uploading savage logs).

I suggest always trying to improve but never ever let anyone tell you you're bad becuase yada yada garbage. its not true and those people are inferior to you simply due to the fact their abuse of you makes them inferior. Be better than them, try to improve, but don't let them get you down.

[Sigma-Astra]

(Fun fact most grey parsers are above the REAL average due to only a tiny percentage of players actually uploading savage logs)

That's not really a fact....I've never heard of grey parses being above the real average for Savage raiding before since my time. If you're grey, you're not being good, you're skating by with the bare minimum truthfully. You cleared by the skin of your teeth for what the average is for your chosen job respectfully.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

100% a grey parse is nothing to be ashamed of. fact is a group of entirely grey parsers can still clear most of the fights. all which matters is doing enough dps to clear. if you want to improve beyond that great but beating yourself up for "underperforming" will not help you. (Fun fact most grey parsers are above the REAL average due to only a tiny percentage of players actually uploading savage logs).

I suggest always trying to improve but never ever let anyone tell you you're bad becuase yada yada garbage. its not true and those people are inferior to you simply due to the fact their abuse of you makes them inferior. Be better than them, try to improve, but don't let them get you down.

With like-minded players, yes. You can do or perform however and have no impact on those involved since everyone is on the same page. When you join parties where the expectations are higher and come in with the attitude "even if I do the bare minimum. That should be enough." People are well within their right to be annoyed.

Regardless, when comparing statistical data, you don't include people who were never going to partake in that activity to begin with. This also makes the incorrect assumption people who choose not to raid are inherently worse players. All in all, you're not exactly doing a convincing job to dispel the notion you're the one spreading toxicity.

[ItaruKarin]

100% a grey parse is nothing to be ashamed of. fact is a group of entirely grey parsers can still clear most of the fights. all which matters is doing enough dps to clear. if you want to improve beyond that great but beating yourself up for "underperforming" will not help you. (Fun fact most grey parsers are above the REAL average due to only a tiny percentage of players actually uploading savage logs).

I suggest always trying to improve but never ever let anyone tell you you're bad becuase yada yada garbage. its not true and those people are inferior to you simply due to the fact their abuse of you makes them inferior. Be better than them, try to improve, but don't let them get you down.

My FC's DPS usually parses high green/blue with some dips into purple territory, our healers/tanks mostly going grey, and we still hit enrage from time to time. No way a full gray clears any current enrage.

Not saying it's any reason to bully or anything, but if you're parsing gray you usually have some room for improvement.

[Lorgana]

Remember, its okay to be gray
Anyone who said it isn't is a bully

[Melichoir]

Remember, its okay to be gray
Anyone who said it isn't is a bully

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That image should be in greyscale for maximum effect.

Snips

I think they knew the fights pacing was slow. Thats why the music isnt super up beat but kind of slow. It's great music and matches the fight's speed, but thats the problem in that regards. Feels like hte fight takes forever.

And IMO, the funniest part about the fights mechanics is I heard through the grapevine a lot of people hated how scripted fights were, so it sounds an awful lot like SE was like "Aiite, you guys hate scripted fights, heres some RNG to spice things up."

[WhyAmIHere]

100% a grey parse is nothing to be ashamed of.

the only, conditional, point you make.

Is it okay to parse grey? Yeah sure.. for your first few clears. A kill is a kill, after all.

But if you're on your 7th or so week and still parsing grey and not showing improvement? That's cause for concern.
If you aren't willing to improve, that's a red flag even more severe than the former.

But, this is all down to the people running the show. That stance is mine. I'd rather take someone whose parses are all grey, but each one shows steady improvement, than someone who for the 7th week in a row is parsing sub-15th percentile.

And the whole "beating yourself up for 'underperforming' will not help you" line is incredibly inaccurate. "I suggest always trying to improve..." Yes, good, good; "...but never ever let anyone tell you you're bad because yada yada garbage." Yeah nah. If you can be doing better, and want to improve, then having it be pointed out where you can improve is not bad. The HOW of the message matters, yes, but not the message itself. If you just brush off and dismiss any and all critiques and criticisms of yourself, in a group setting, you're hindering the group as well as your own personal growth.

Best of all that applies to all aspects of life, not just "muh vidya gaemz"

[KaivaC]

100% a grey parse is nothing to be ashamed of. fact is a group of entirely grey parsers can still clear most of the fights. all which matters is doing enough dps to clear. if you want to improve beyond that great but beating yourself up for "underperforming" will not help you. (Fun fact most grey parsers are above the REAL average due to only a tiny percentage of players actually uploading savage logs).

I suggest always trying to improve but never ever let anyone tell you you're bad becuase yada yada garbage. its not true and those people are inferior to you simply due to the fact their abuse of you makes them inferior. Be better than them, try to improve, but don't let them get you down.

I know my threads have a past history of being about grey this, grey that, but this certainly isn't one of those threads. But for the sake of addressing this, I do not agree with your stance on greys. Imma just leave it at that, because I don't want to turn this into a debate.

[HyoMinPark]

Your damage is going to plummet during that phase regardless of role because of the randomness of the keys (so you can't pre-position yourself for attacking or go in a CW or CCW fashion). You also will not be able to get full rotations on most of them if your static is piling on the same one. Plus, after Protostar, you're running around dodging divebombs and AOEs. The total time of that entire phase is pushing 2 minutes.

My static tries to split up with at least two players on the non-invulnerable nails to kill them faster. But we still see a significant drop in damage simply because of the amount of downtime you have during the add phase. Whether or not this is the optimal strat I can't say, but we do down it faster now that we did before when we were one person per nail.

I suggest turning off the parser and just enjoy the game.

For some, optimization of a fight and increasing their damage (personal and raid damage) is enjoyment. How about we stop making pointless suggestions that everyone should play your preferred way?