Thread: More important than jobs, the interface, or version 2.0...

1. Jobs, New BR system.
2. 2.0, Jobs
3. 2.0
4. 2.0

All of this stuff is what everyone expects from 2.0. We shouldn't have to get them to acknowledge it, it is assumed that this should be in an MMO. When Yoshida says "FFXIV 2.0 has to be perfect" obviously these things need to be resolved in it, without asking.

Also Selbina is far from dead right now. Outside of my LS I have been in 4 PUG Moogle groups, had several offers for Ifrit, and a few spiritbond parties. There are always shouts in Ul'dah for something.

That said I can't wait for 1.21, and dread 1.22-1.23 which sound like the worst drought of endgame content while we wait for 2.0.

The overall feeling in Eorzea these days (and this in Selbina, arguably the most populous server of them all) is one of inertia. Very little happens. Most players, are capped in multiple classes and seem to have had enough of the dungeons, the primals, the strongholds, the NMs... Veteran players are out "until the patch" with no promising objectives left to entice them into fight. People are either beta-testing Tera, or taking a break to try out The Old Republic, or perhaps finishing Skyrim. Anything but playing FFXIV. Some nights in the past two weeks it has felt like the world has ground to a halt. Please say something... More importantly, do something. Perhaps (since you don't seem to know it) start by asking someone to tell you how classic FFXI worked and understand where we are coming from.

Yep, same thing is happening on saronia in my linkshell, its a pretty hardcore linkshell and the most hardcore members have done pretty much everything worth doing including myself, primal fights are getting boring and tedius, we have done the 10 minute moogle, darkholds loot is junk, strongholds loot is crap also, materia farming can be done solo and even materia prices have reached very low prices because noones buying any and there is a massive surplus on the wards.

So yeah its been dead the past few weeks all ive got left to do is gathering and crafting achievments to pass the time. There is the occasional hope of doing moogle now and then but it never happens as to many players just dont log on. I cant blame them tbh.

Originally Posted by Jinko

1.The game is still going through major changes there is no point rebalancing mobs now as the job system and possibly refinements to armour will change it again.

I am with you, up there, in hopes that the game will get better. But so far all we can do is indulge, as I often do, and you do in the quote above, in wishful thinking. The fact of the matter is that Yoshida, admirable though his work has been and his intentions are, seems to hark from a completely different gaming culture than most legacy XI players do. And most of the remaining population is comprised by legacy players, that both Yoshida and his team don't seem to be very interested in catering to.

Originally Posted by Jinko

2. Yes there is a lack of challenge at least untill end game but im sure this will be address before 2.0, I don't think its such a bad thing to make the game easier to reach cap anyway, I agree that lootable equipment is somewhat redundant with the addition of materia but it looks like nothing is being done about that.

Again, we have no proof, just wishful thinking (yours and mine) that they might get to balance the game before v. 2.0. The problem with an easy cap is that 'the path' becomes irrelevant. And lacking the motivation to do "things" while you're level 20 or 30, the only point of the game will be a race to the top... No point at owning transient gear that will be rendered obsolete in a few minutes. With a lack of motivation for people to covet low or mid-level gear, no economic break is at hand until you cap your crafting class. This doesn't seem very good as far as economic incentives go, for crafters and gatherers.

Originally Posted by Jinko

As others have mention the lack of content is the main problem at the moment, this should change with 2.0 because the team will no longer be split between two versions of the game and more resources will be poured into keeping end game content flowing.

Again, it's you and me assuming they will produce a denser, deeper game for v. 2.0. I don't think the current problem is the lack of content, as far as the lack of permanency of content. Content in this game becomes obsolete, because they really want to make it easy for people to beat the content. They're petrified at the thought of the gaming community's calling FFXIV "hardcore," the way they labeled the company's previous MMO. However, I remember, in XI, doing the third mission (the one with the ahriman and the dragon) many times over the years, to help friends as well as to challenge myself... slowly reducing the size of the party needed, and reducing also the time of combat; it was always fun. Since the instance was "level-capped" the challenge was stardardized, no matter how high your "outside" level was. After a couple of dozen runs of Dzemael Darkhold, to say nothing of the recent nerfing of the dungeon, all sense of challenge and danger is gone... not very motivating. That chapter of content is a closed chapter for many players, especially the ones that already got the drops. And the ones that didnt... well, they can do better than the Alpine Jacket or the Canopus set by virtue of (not very challenging either) Materia melding.

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Originally Posted by Kyra

Yep, same thing is happening on saronia in my linkshell, its a pretty hardcore linkshell and the most hardcore members have done pretty much everything worth doing including myself, primal fights are getting boring and tedius, we have done the 10 minute moogle, darkholds loot is junk, strongholds loot is crap also, materia farming can be done solo and even materia prices have reached very low prices because noones buying any and there is a massive surplus on the wards.

So yeah its been dead the past few weeks all ive got left to do is gathering and crafting achievments to pass the time. There is the occasional hope of doing moogle now and then but it never happens as to many players just dont log on. I cant blame them tbh.

This basically sums up how I feel about the game lately. Not much to do anymore but craft/gather and keep hoping the update comes tomorrow. :S

Did the SARS post scare you all away?

Originally Posted by Rutelor

Did the SARS post scare you all away?

I think it was suppose to be clever...