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    SekkerOfTrust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Please, take me to court over an Excel spreadsheet having your username from a video game on it. I never realized Excel constituted owning a private company.

    Whit the company i was referring to fflogs, its a lucrative organization (unipersonal or in a for of company) that get revenue from putting publicity on his website trading of information from a game from witch dont have any authorization or right to do. I dont know in which country you live or so but in most countries of Europe that is prohibited.
    Why do you think SE bann people when get reported from using third party software? If you use a bit your brain you will know its to reduce the risk of justice problems.

    I just tell you what it is, i dont care of that website and if I im there and my logs are green, blue or multicolor.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust View Post
    Whit the company i was referring to fflogs, its a lucrative organization (unipersonal or in a for of company) that get revenue from putting publicity on his website trading of information from a game from witch dont have any authorization or right to do. I dont know in which country you live or so but in most countries of Europe that is prohibited.
    Why do you think SE bann people when get reported from using third party software? If you use a bit your brain you will know its to reduce the risk of justice problems.

    I just tell you what it is, i dont care of that website and if I im there and my logs are green, blue or multicolor.
    The caveat here is that the EU is not the world. There are other countries that have different laws and different things that are prohibited and not prohibited. Trying to enact EU law on a site that isn’t based in the EU won’t get you very far.

    The only individuals that have any right to enact any sort of legal action on FFLogs (which is not a company, FYI) is Square Enix. They own everything in this game: your character, your account, even your forum handle and your character’s name. Considering they have not taken any action, I don’t think it’s something high on their list of priorities, nor do they consider it a threat to privacy.

    FFLogs pulls all the information on your character (name, server, guild if applicable) from the Lodestone anyways. Which SE has publically published. There are no privacy violations here.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust View Post
    Whit the company i was referring to fflogs, its a lucrative organization (unipersonal or in a for of company) that get revenue from putting publicity on his website trading of information from a game from witch dont have any authorization or right to do. I dont know in which country you live or so but in most countries of Europe that is prohibited.
    Why do you think SE bann people when get reported from using third party software? If you use a bit your brain you will know its to reduce the risk of justice problems.

    I just tell you what it is, i dont care of that website and if I im there and my logs are green, blue or multicolor.
    Except FFlogs isn't a company. The only revenue they generate are from google adsense and donation—neither of which infringe on SE's copyright, which is the only scenario this whole legality argument would be relevant in. I suppose the recently made Market Board app would fall under this nonsense since, it too, lists character names.

    And yet the devs actively watch World First twitch streams where ACT is prominently displayed and they do nothing. They only ban third party software if it's used to harass other players. If you used your brain, perhaps you'd have known that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except FFlogs isn't a company. The only revenue they generate are from google adsense and donation—neither of which infringe on SE's copyright, which is the only scenario this whole legality argument would be relevant in. I suppose the recently made Market Board app would fall under this nonsense since, it too, lists character names.

    And yet the devs actively watch World First twitch streams where ACT is prominently displayed and they do nothing. They only ban third party software if it's used to harass other players. If you used your brain, perhaps you'd have known that.
    Its all here but nobody ever read it, sadly i work treating data and i know what im talking about, if they do nothing when see soneone using a non contracted third party software its because noone ask to do otherwise, or everyone would be running a parser and talk about it in game -> https://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/documents/privacy

    PS: As I said i dont care what other ppl do whit the data of my chatacter on a game but other ppl may not.
    So if u use that system its better to upload just ur character info or/and the friends that allow you to do, you will be more save against a bann or the website itself being closed at the worst escenario.
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust View Post
    Its all here but nobody ever read it, sadly i work treating data and i know what im talking about, if they do nothing when see soneone using a non contracted third party software its because noone ask to do otherwise, or everyone would be running a parser and talk about it in game -> https://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/documents/privacy
    This is about how Square Enix handles the personal information you give them. Maybe I missed where it says your battle log information is private, personal, and protected information that's stored with your player character / account.

    Funny thing is, the most information FFLogs actually uses from FFXIV is its publicly available lodestone profiles. Profiles that are online by default and provides no information about the player behind the character that the public Lodestone profile does not. Everything else is publicly uploaded battle log information.

    So if u use that system its better to upload just ur character info or/and the friends that allow you to do, you will be more save against a bann or the website itself being closed at the worst escenario.
    FFLogs has been up for 2+ years. If SE was going to take legal action against it, it would have. There's been plenty of time for plenty of complaints to have been made, and many have been made.
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