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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This notion bad FFlog parses will lead to wanton kicks from pug groups is a boogeyman created by bad players trying to deflect responsibility. It simply doesn't happen. At least not with any regularity.
    With regularity being the caveat, even I have participated in kicking gray SAMs out of my PFs. Multiple times. BLM too. Like, if you got 8 kills of o9s but aren't even breaking 5k as a SAM or BLM - You just got carried. Now I don't always kick people, it depends what friends I'm running with because some are more hardcore than others. It depends if we're trying to farm or just trying to clear (like weekly clears on alt characters).

    Due consideration, IMO someone that's pugging every week is a lot worse off because I know the kinda bs things that can go wrong in a pug environment, so it may not always be their fault. But, I also know that good players can still perform at a high level even in a bad group. Just have to judge on a case by case basis.

    As for hiding logs.. IDK I'd probably give them the benefit of the doubt for a couple of pulls at least, but in general I think you'd only hide them if you had something to hide, so it can be a red flag for people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    What happens when a player who was in learning groups and started bad, is now skilled, and tries to move up?

    Do that hey have this albatross of fflogs from when they were in those learning groups still following then forward?
    I think it can. But, if you display a fair amount of confidence in yourself, and willingness to take advice and improve, and then actually follow through with it, it will generally work out fine. My static SMN started out rather middle of the road, but I gave her a chance because I wanted a SMN for our caster spot, and now 2 raid cycles later she's consistently the highest DPS in the group. It's not always going to work out, of course, but if you're determined to make it happen then you got a good shot of getting there.
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 11-30-2018 at 05:23 AM.