getting kicked from end game pfs as soon as I join?

[Akor]

Block your logs on the site. Problem solved.

That wont solve it, though.

[Sabora_Makingai]

I just want to say it may just be the people you are trying to party with. If anyone here looks at my logs (feel free cause I'm always trying to be my co tank in dps even though it probably wont ever happen) then you will see that I parse grey most of the time but clear just fine with no deaths.

EDIT: Unless its on O10S and I get clipped by Hot Tail from 100 feet away

[Caitlyn]

So a couple PFs I have joined for Alphascape Savage today and yesterday I was kicked from almost instantly, and every time I make a PF no one joins it? I am super confused about this, is it becasue I main Sam or is it because of FFlogs? I have heard a lot of people refusing to run with people who don't have good parses on FFLogs so idk...

edit: If i was kicked because of some kind of bad rep i have on my data center I would like to know about that too because I am completely lost on this I am on Aether Btw!

Did you tried to whisper the party leader for the reason why the kicked you? There is also a valid reason why you got kicked. If you want to know, just ask them.
If you got kicked instantly, you did something wrong (didnt read party description or no reaction on group chat) or you got a really bad rep on your datacenter.

I dont think its about logs or classes (except ppl want no double class for wrong reasons). Hiding your logs wont solve your problems. If I would open a raid party, I would even prefer grey logs over no logs/hidden logs.

[Stormfur]

I'm kind of ambivalent about FFlogs anyway. On one hand, I can understand why someone running savage-level raids would want to know the general skills of the players in their party. For PF though it seems kind of like overkill.

On the other hand, that's MY data that I didn't give anyone permission to use. I don't like that just a facet of your performance can be ripped out of your hands like that and uploaded for the world to see without you having any say in it.

OP I'm not sure what to tell you.. there have been times when people get kicked because the raid leader's friend is on and they want to get them a clear or something like that. Nothing personal to you, but that doesn't make it sting any less, I know. I main SAM on my main character too so if I got kicked JUST for being a SAM, well, it's their loss.

[Aomine1992]

It just means you didn’t tickle their fancy just move on, I have only seen this once and usually those parties end up toxic and unable to clear content anyways! I have disgusting parses for V3s because I keep dying to the flamethrower, missile drop mechanic before Panto 2 because well healing but still I have not been kicked from a pf yet.

[MoroMurasaki]

On the other hand, that's MY data that I didn't give anyone permission to use. I don't like that just a facet of your performance can be ripped out of your hands like that and uploaded for the world to see without you having any say in it.

I very much agree with the rest of your post but I just don't think it's fair to look at fflogs this way. The only time your performance is your own is when you're doing something solo. The rest of the time, good or bad, you aren't 100% responsible for or in control of those numbers to begin with much less enough so that you have any ownership over them.

While I never recommend it to anyone either hiding your logs is technically an option available to everyone. In situations like the OP is talking about I would say hiding logs is closer to an admission of guilt than anything though - very few people want to hide when they're doing well at something. I've partied with some people via PF with really sketchy fflogs pages and quite a few of then turned out to be completely fine.

Judging someone by their logs (especially when there aren't a lot of them) is silly but judging someone for deliberately hiding their performance is just common sense and healthy skepticism.

[24spencer]

i have literally never seen anyone get kicked just for having grey parses so i find it extremely unlikely that OP is giving us the whole story here.

I only see people get kicked in savage pfs if they repeatedly fail the same mechanic and/or refuse to communicate with the party when needed, or have a reputation for doing those things.

[BristolRuss]

It has been covered extensively already, but hiding your logs will be doing you no favours at all. It just makes you look like an exceptionally bad player who has something to hide. The real question here is what kind of parties were you trying to join? What floors were they? Were they practice or weekly clear runs?

For O9 and O10 kill runs I honestly doubt anyone would care if you had grey percentiles as long as your logs show that you are competent and can kill the content. Especially if the rest of the party are good and can pick up the slack. For O11 and 12 then it might become more of an issue as the DPS checks are a lot tighter.
If it was practice parties that you were joining then it matters even less as there isn't an expectation to clear the fight. Of course there is still an expectation that you know the basics such as your rotation etc; which again if you hide your logs gives off a very bad impression.

[HyoMinPark]

On the other hand, that's MY data that I didn't give anyone permission to use. I don't like that just a facet of your performance can be ripped out of your hands like that and uploaded for the world to see without you having any say in it.

I have to disagree with this: any content where logs are being uploaded is group content, therefore, the performance is not purely your own; Savage is a group effort, so the performance belongs to everyone in the group. Not just one person.

So, how is it determined who “owns this performance more”? How is it determined who “owns the right to upload” or “the right to deny an upload”?
It simply cannot be. This is not a black-and-white situation of “it’s mine, not yours, so you can’t do it because I say so”.

[Melichoir]

So a couple PFs I have joined for Alphascape Savage today and yesterday I was kicked from almost instantly, and every time I make a PF no one joins it? I am super confused about this, is it becasue I main Sam or is it because of FFlogs? I have heard a lot of people refusing to run with people who don't have good parses on FFLogs so idk...

edit: If i was kicked because of some kind of bad rep i have on my data center I would like to know about that too because I am completely lost on this I am on Aether Btw!

You pretty much answered your own question. Broadly, you have bad parses and people can see that on FFLOGs (which doesnt help you, of course), you are running Sam (which a lot of groups dont like outside of O12S from what I understand), or your reputation precedes you. You can gauge the last one pretty easily by playing a class thats equally geared and in demand (DRG as an example) and seeing if you get kicked almost immediately. If they hang onto you, its likely not a rep thing but probably being SAM. Also, just so you know even if you block your logs on FFLOGS, some groups will kick you anyways as theyll see it as you hiding something (aka you are a baddie in their eyes and are trying to hide it).

As for making your own group, Doing so as a DPS is gonna be harder especially if youre off meta. People generally look for parties that already have a few people in them, or have tanks/healers set.

I have to disagree with this: any content where logs are being uploaded is group content, therefore, the performance is not purely your own; Savage is a group effort, so the performance belongs to everyone in the group. Not just one person.

Just to expand on this, your damage is gonna be group reliant to a fairly good extent. What buffs you get, how well the healers or tanks are playing, how much other DPS are doing, etc will affect your "performance". As a point, youll do higher DPS in a good comp than you would solo against a training dummy typically. So it's not "just your performance and no one elses." Its very much a group activity, and there's no real way to pull just your performance out of it because of how things interact in party play.