getting kicked from end game pfs as soon as I join?

[Canadane]

The people that assume you are hiding poor performance are precisely the lot you want to avoid.

People who don't try to improve themselves are the type of people those type of people want to avoid.
I find it unlikely that unless he's joining Clear parties, logs are any type of concern.

The best way to find out is to simply ask. One can't improve without knowing what's wrong. Also a good reason to actually check out your battle logs... gotta know what you're (not) doing.

[KaivaC]

So a couple PFs I have joined for Alphascape Savage today and yesterday I was kicked from almost instantly, and every time I make a PF no one joins it? I am super confused about this, is it becasue I main Sam or is it because of FFlogs? I have heard a lot of people refusing to run with people who don't have good parses on FFLogs so idk...

edit: If i was kicked because of some kind of bad rep i have on my data center I would like to know about that too because I am completely lost on this I am on Aether Btw!

Just by doing a quick look, it seems like one or two things: either you joined one of those parties that want high DPS and what was found on your FFLOGs was seen as a problem by the party leader; or it's because of the fact that you've hidden your logs, which tends to carry a negative stigma behind it. Could possibly help more if we knew what your logs looked like, so at least somebody could offer up something that could potentially explain this - that is, if you don't have some rep on the PF. Still, not all PFs are like this, so it could just be a case of some bad luck with a few groups.

[HyoMinPark]

Block your logs on the site. Problem solved.

No, not "problem solved". This would just increase OP's issue due to the negative stigma hiding one's logs carries.

Your best bet would probably be to run the content with friends if possible. The unpleasant part of the ffxiv community is very present in raid content.

There is plenty of negativity outside of the raid community. Unpleasantry isn't limited to just raiders.

It's not unpleasantry to not want to carry someone who underperforms when you step into Savage content. It's not unpleasantry to want someone who will perform their role adequately and not be dead weight.
Inb4 I'm accused of directing this at the OP, I am not.

The people that assume you are hiding poor performance are precisely the lot you want to avoid.

Because 9 times out of 10, those who hide their logs don't have stellar ones to begin with. And a lot of parties for weekly clears do not want to deal with a mystery box of a player if they're looking to get in and get out. And the party leader is well within their rights to kick players as they see fit from their party.



To OP: I doubt you're getting kicked specifically because of your job of choice. Most Aether parties I see are either completely open for roles or they already have locks in place - and the only reason you would be locked out of groups is if they have already met their requirements for melee, or there is another Striking melee in the group who doesn't want to fight you for loot (like a MNK).

More than likely you're being removed due to joining a party for the wrong reasons (e.g., you've joined a weekly 2 chest group but haven't actually cleared the content), or you have consistently bad logs - multiple greys with no visible signs of improvement are a thing some players do not want to deal with in Savage. I would suggest working on improvements to your performance if you truly think this is why you are being removed from groups.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Based on the so little information present, I seriously doubt it's because of any FFlogs. Any time I see people getting kicked or avoided it's because the person is a well-known troll on their data center and other raiders will blacklist people like that to avoid their parties. Is that the case? Idk

I honestly don't know how you can go about figuring that out other than changing your name and see if that changes anything.

[Dzian]

If I saw someone with hidden fflogs, I'd be more inclined to believe the player knows of their poor performance and is unwilling to improve.

Then you'd be an idiot.

Many players hide there logs just because there basically inaccurate.

If I've done a fight 50 times and of those 50 some random person uploaded 2 runs to fflogs. It's by no means an accurate representation of my ability.

There's basically 2 ways you can go. One is hide your logs entirely.

2 is parse and upload every single encounter you do. In order to maintain an accurate representation of your abilities.

1 is infinitely easier than 2. And 2 is impossible anyway for many players on the ps4 or lower end pcs.

There's also the fact a huge amount of people never look into the logs. Just the colour of a players name and there dps number...

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Block your logs on the site. Problem solved.

The people that assume you are hiding poor performance are precisely the lot you want to avoid.

Uh, don't do this. People who hide their logs are almost immediately ostracized because people assume you have something to hide. I cannot exactly fault the mentality. After all, why hide your logs unless they're exceptionally bad? In which case, the PF leader is rightfully concerned you will hold the group back. People are under no obligation to carry you through a clear simply because you want one.

Nonetheless, I... have to agree with Apple Jinx here. We're missing an important detail because people typically aren't kicking anyone unless their FFlog page is hidden, extremely low or they've consistently screwed up mechanics. SAM may get meme'd on but people don't kick them on site without a reason, especially since they can merely lock the party slots if they didn't want a SAM.

Then you'd be an idiot.

Many players hide there logs just because there basically inaccurate.

If I've done a fight 50 times and of those 50 some random person uploaded 2 runs to fflogs. It's by no means an accurate representation of my ability.

There's basically 2 ways you can go. One is hide your logs entirely.

2 is parse and upload every single encounter you do. In order to maintain an accurate representation of your abilities.

1 is infinitely easier than 2. And 2 is impossible anyway for many players on the ps4 or lower end pcs.

There's also the fact a huge amount of people never look into the logs. Just the colour of a players name and there dps number...

If you've done the fight fifty times, you have fifty parses which you could upload. Why are only two there? Contrary to popular belief, most players don't actually care if you're spotting greens or your median is trash, especially in a pug setting. I am far more apprehensive when I see hidden logs because I have no information to go on except your word. And a lot of people lie about their experience levels in this game. You're essentially demanding people potentially waste their time without giving them any frame of reference to work with, all because you don't want to upload parses. You don't have to like it, but it's their party and their rules. Personally, I won't kick immediately, however I will be far less patient with any mistakes you make because I almost have suspicions you're hiding something. Should you start screwing up mechanics, you're only confirming said suspicions whereas if I could see your parses, I might be more inclined to help.

[HyoMinPark]

Many players hide there logs just because there basically inaccurate.

If I've done a fight 50 times and of those 50 some random person uploaded 2 runs to fflogs. It's by no means an accurate representation of my ability.

When you have 1 or 2 greens or greys, people generally don’t think much of them—they may be hesitant, but they won’t get too up in arms over it. Especially if you have other logs that are higher in other categories—everyone has bad runs. But when you have a string of nothing but green/grey and it is spread consistently across multiple categories, that’s fairly representative of your overall performance even if it isn’t every single run of every piece of content that you’ve ever done.

[Dzian]

If you've done the fight fifty times, you have fifty parses which you could upload. Why are only two there?

that's totally wrong doing a fight 50 times doesnt mean i have 50 parses at all. unless of course you're assuming or expecting the entire playerbase has ACT running all day everyday. and uploads everytihng.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

that's totally wrong doing a fight 50 times doesnt mean i have 50 parses at all. unless of course you're assuming or expecting the entire playerbase has ACT running all day everyday. and uploads everytihng.

If you've cleared it fifty times, you either elected not to run ACT—therefore you chose not to parse—or miraculously came across equally minded people 96% of your clears, thus they didn't upload anything either. The likelihood of this borders on impossible given how ubiquitous parsers are in Savage content nowadays. Someone is virtually guaranteed to be running one. And they are quite likely to upload it. If it isn't Savage... no one cares.

[Nora_of_Mira]

that's totally wrong doing a fight 50 times doesnt mean i have 50 parses at all. unless of course you're assuming or expecting the entire playerbase has ACT running all day everyday. and uploads everytihng.

the only fights that come to mind that anyone has done 50+ times are extreme primals, and I dont think people really care about parses for those as the DPS checks are super light and get lighter as time goes on. I've only encountered people looking up peoples' logs when we're progging Savage and have to replace a static member through PF so we can gauge whether or not we'll make the DPS check.

I still think the OP's problem is likely related to something other than parses.