Datacenters: A Plea For Community Building, Not Fracturing

[Doozer]

People are complaining about their communities being torn apart, but didn't they say there will be a 2 week period of free world transfers? If you want to be together so bad, go join them! I've been looking to get off Primal for a while (certain worlds seem to be full of people that really ruin the fun), but I had no interest in moving over to Aether. So to see that I can leave Primal and join a data center that has the world a friend of mine is on (which was previously in Aether) makes me look forward to hopping over to Crystal when the time comes.

The fracturing is up to the people who I guess don't care enough about their friends to join them. It's not that deep.

[Seraphor]

People are complaining about their communities being torn apart, but didn't they say there will be a 2 week period of free world transfers? If you want to be together so bad, go join them! I've been looking to get off Primal for a while (certain worlds seem to be full of people that really ruin the fun), but I had no interest in moving over to Aether. So to see that I can leave Primal and join a data center that has the world a friend of mine is on (which was previously in Aether) makes me look forward to hopping over to Crystal when the time comes.

The fracturing is up to the people who I guess don't care enough about their friends to join them. It's not that deep.

Pretty much this.
Its an inconvenience, but you can move servers without losing much. Even if you own a house, you can store your furniture in retainers, get a full refund plus 3mil, and because of the upheaval there's bound to be empty plots coming up on your destination server.

The only issue I see is if you have several friends all on different servers, soon to be different datacentres, and the choice of which friends to stick with.
If those friends are all friends with each other, you should be able to come to a group arrangement.
If not then you've got problems.

[Doozer]

The only issue I see is if you have several friends all on different servers, soon to be different datacentres, and the choice of which friends to stick with.
If those friends are all friends with each other, you should be able to come to a group arrangement.
If not then you've got problems.

Yeah exactly. It would be a Big Problem if everyone had to shell out $18 to transfer, but if everyone can coordinate and decided on where to go, then there's very little to lose. Just like moving in real life. It sucks, and you gotta haul a bunch of stuff around, and get re-situated, but it's not that bad.

[Nalien]

Even if you own a house, you can store your furniture in retainers, get a full refund plus 3mil, and because of the upheaval there's bound to be empty plots coming up on your destination server.

One Retainer can hold 175 items. You have two without paying extra, so that's 350 inventory slots. Lets just assume you're not using that inventory space for anything else for... No well explained reason... When they announced this I figured I'd go count my furniture, just in case, turns out I've got well over 700 pieces to shift if I do want to move... It's a smart ploy by SE to not only inconvenience us (don't even get me started on re-placing all the furniture after just getting things how I liked...), but potentially have us shell out extra for more Retainers...

I'm just praying that SE is smart enough to lock Housing down for the two week period... Particularly with EU where we're getting new servers and thus entirely new Housing Wards... If there's a mad dash to snap up new plots, then this will be very ugly IMO... If they disable the ability to purchase plots for a while... People can spread out more efficiently, at least with regards to getting a plot... I mean they need to do that just for Free Companies alone... Anyone moving server as a Free Company will be reset to Rank 1 and need to grind up to Rank 6 just to purchase a plot, in which time all the plots will be purchased by individuals...

The fracturing is up to the people who I guess don't care enough about their friends to join them. It's not that deep.

I have friends who want to move, and friends who don't. Please tell me more about how I don't care enough about one set of friends to join them...

It's a lose-lose situation for some of us, stop pretending like it isn't please.

[Hasrat]

Free transfers is all I needed to know. Sounds like a good time to find a new quiet server.

[Seraphor]

700 pieces of furniture sounds insane, can you even place that many in a house? They cant all be expensive stuff either, i would take the hit on everything you can replace, then thats what your 3mil will go towards.

Retainers cost peanuts and you can remove them after, so you'd only pay for one month.

[Nalien]

700 across a Mansion (400 placed), and two Private Rooms (I forget the cap on those) + Storage. And 3mil really doesn't come close to replacing anything, especially when you factor in event furniture which can only be replaced by paying extra on the Mogstation... Not even sure 3mil will cover the fixtures...

Retainers cost peanuts and you can remove them after, so you'd only pay for one month.

The fact that you'd be OK with paying anything when you're the one being inconvenienced is... Kind of astonishing... "This move is fine, they give you a free transfer after all!", "Housing isn't a problem, just buy extra Retainers to carry furniture over!", make your mind up...

Bottom line, they could handle this better... How hard can it be to temporarily double the Storage space of Housing and just take a snapshot of what you've placed/stored before moving? Similar system they have for moving an estate when they added Shirogane; Everything just gets put in Storage when you move to a new plot. Work that for world transfer and suddenly this complaint vanishes...

[Maleficent]

I have friends who want to move, and friends who don't. Please tell me more about how I don't care enough about one set of friends to join them...

It's a lose-lose situation for some of us, stop pretending like it isn't please.

I don't think anyone is saying there'll won't be a need for compromise and sacrifice. We all empathize. As with most things that affect a group, it's not just on us as an individual but on the group's choices collectively.

With free transfers and full housing refunds, it seems the remaining inconveniences are too high a price for some in your group to continue playing together.

I don't envy your position. For those you have to leave behind, I hope you can still be friends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foyAOoVagWw

[Nalien]

It's a particularly bitter pill to swallow, given they just announced World-Visit alongside it; "Cool, we can finally do Maps together! Can visit your House!", Oh wait... An absolutely mind blowing lack of awareness on this announcement, I must say...

Oh well though, don't need XIV to talk to people at least. My main concern is Housing at this point. At least EU gets new Wards, but I'm still expecting SE to make a mess of this and there are certainly a lot of things they could be doing differently to minimize the inconvenience caused... Shame this isn't happening to Gaia/Mana/Elemental, perhaps then some of this feedback would be listened to...

[Doozer]

I have friends who want to move, and friends who don't. Please tell me more about how I don't care enough about one set of friends to join them...

It's a lose-lose situation for some of us, stop pretending like it isn't please.

Well clearly, those friends of yours that don't want to move don't care enough about their friends. You should probably learn to accept that. If they value fake items in a game over their friendships, well.