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  1. #31
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    I started playing FFXI when I was 12 years old, and I seen some adults who acted like they were 5.
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  2. #32
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Basically, we need more borders between players. Someone on Rabanastre brought up a good point. They suggested we separate the Cornelians to the "ghetto" parts of Ul'dah. But let's go a step farther in even separate the Japanese and people below 18.

    SE did a good job by making an EU only server. That way if they need to start another World War, only one server needs to go down.
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  3. #33
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    Eldaena Vonxandria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    Basically, we need more borders between players. Someone on Rabanastre brought up a good point. They suggested we separate the Cornelians to the "ghetto" parts of Ul'dah. But let's go a step farther in even separate the Japanese and people below 18.

    SE did a good job by making an EU only server. That way if they need to start another World War, only one server needs to go down.
    I seriously hope you're just messing around.
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  4. #34
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    Dashe Voln
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibria View Post
    no, Crysta still has to be bought, it's a simple process as far as any online checkout is concerned to verify age as an item is payed for, they just need to flag the age of the purchaser against the amount of Crysta that person has in their database. Someone already has crysta banked? They wouldn't be the first site to require a small purchase or registered credit card information to prove age.

    It wouldn't be perfect, no system is, I'm just saying it's possible - and I reiterate, I am not for the idea of an age restricted server I'm just pointing out it is possible from a technical standpoint.
    I know that we're speaking hypothetically here so don't worry about that. I'm not for an age restricted server either, especially since I started XI around PS2 launch shortly after turning 13. I met some of my closest (online) friends through that game, and they pretty much watched me grow up over the past 7 years.
    I still keep in contact with a good number of them, and I play XIV with quite a few of them today. Some are the same age as I am, some are a bit older in their late 20's/30's. None of that would be possible with silly things like an age-restricted server.

    Though if they were to implement a mandatory card check system, that would be against the entire point of Crysta since you can either buy it online through SE, or at your local Gamestop/7-11/Rite-Aid, etc.

    I have personally been doing the latter since it's easier to know how much cash I have on-hand during my lunch break than to remember/check how much extra money I have in my bank account at the end of the month for an automatic charge (via C&B or otherwise). That and in my opinion, the lower the number of online-based services holding my personal/card information, the better.
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  5. #35
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    Dibria Midnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    Though if they were to implement a mandatory card check system, that would be against the entire point of Crysta since you can either buy it online through SE, or at your local Gamestop/7-11/Rite-Aid, etc. =.
    I actually did not know this, in Europe prepayed cards are not available for Crysta - or at least I don't believe they are as they're not available from Amazon or GAME in the UK and people in certain countries around Europe were unable to subscribe when payments started up again due to mismanagement of the crysta online purchasing system, a problem easily solved if they could go and buy a card.

    I personally buy Crysta as a security measure, I buy a certain amount of Crysta and don't save my card information in an attempt to reduce risk if my account is compromised, as such it didn't cross my mind you could by cards from a game shop.

  6. #36
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    I take the unpopular approach of not censoring myself or being even slightly concerned that a child might see the horrible things I type, like when I accuse people of being lollygaggers or hooligans. Or that they'll be exposed to virtual drinking/gambling.

    Parents need to watch their kids. Can they watch them all the time? No. If they aren't comfortable with them playing an online game where the interactions can sometimes involve "adult subject matter" (get your mind out of the gutter... only for a minute though), then they should not let their kids play this game. Last time I checked "parenting" was a parent's responsibility, not random other people who happen to be playing the same online game. If a parent is leaving what their child sees up to the good natured interweb there's more wrong there than some random virtual drinking/gambling.

    And no this isn't the same as walking into a children's play ground and yelling obscenities then blaming the parents for exposing their children to that. Slippery slope is not slippery or related.
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  7. #37
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    Dashe Voln
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibria View Post
    I actually did not know this, in Europe prepayed cards are not available for Crysta - or at least I don't believe they are as they're not available from Amazon or GAME in the UK and people in certain countries around Europe were unable to subscribe when payments started up again due to mismanagement of the crysta online purchasing system, a problem easily solved if they could go and buy a card.

    I personally buy Crysta as a security measure, I buy a certain amount of Crysta and don't save my card information in an attempt to reduce risk if my account is compromised, as such it didn't cross my mind you could by cards from a game shop.
    We don't have actual Crysta cards here, but pre-paid game cards distributed by UltimatePay. Though obviously I'm not sure if your side of the pond has this option or at least an equivalent.

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    Last edited by Impulse; 02-22-2012 at 03:35 AM.

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    To everyone saying they've played alongside kids who seem more mature, I mean, we are talking about adults who have virtually accepted a video game as an alternative lifestyle. What do you really expect? - the majority of them to be socially adept? Hah.
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  9. #39
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    Dibria Midnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    We don't have actual Crysta cards here, but pre-paid game cards distributed by UltimatePay. Though obviously I'm not sure if your side of the pond has this option or at least an equivalent.
    Ultimate pay is the system I use with paypal, however there is nowhere to buy cards over here, a quick search of their site verifies that they don't sell over the counter cards outside of the US - it would make life easier if SE published prepay cards but I'm guessing it would prove to be expensive for them with the current size of the playerbase, what use does my local GAME store have in buying 10 10,000 crysta cards if I'm the only one that goes in and buys them?

  10. #40
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    Dodoku Lilimiye
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    To everyone saying they've played alongside kids who seem more mature, I mean, we are talking about adults who have virtually accepted a video game as an alternative lifestyle. What do you really expect? - the majority of them to be socially adept? Hah.
    I will tell my mom you called my socially inadapted!
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