Blue Mage is karma for Red Mage

[dragonseth07]

Remember when Red Mage came out? There was some excitement, but also a lot of complaints that it was a traditional job. It fit the Trinity as a DPS, it wasn't a true hybrid, etc. People complained all over that it didn't fit the RDM they envisioned, because they had to make it fit dungeons and raids.

With BLU, they do the opposite. They listened and said "Fine, we won't make it fit, we'll give you the spirit of the job instead." And we got exactly that.

This is karma.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

Who complained? Like 10 out of 100? Most of the people actually liked how the job turned out, myself included and I'm a RDM super fan and a traditionalist. The job is fun and well designed, while at the same time its core stayed. Let's compare the uproar threads between RDM and BLU. Seems like there's more BLU uproar threads.

This is not karma, this is just a bad joke.

[Saefinn]

It could be karma too in that from the other aspect. I loved how they did Red Mage, I thought it was an intelligent way of making the job fit into FFXIV's mold. And it flows so well when you play it. The type of Blue Mage we're getting is the kind I'll probably love. Though I am currently hanging my judgment on a) how it ends up playing and b) how dire the restrictions actually end up being in practice.

I think the reality is people are different and have different opinions on how things should be. SE will never please all the people all the time. There are people praising what they're doing with Blue Mage as well. So maybe SE are trying to satisfy both camps but in doing so they also have to disappoint both camps. But at least if you want to play a jack of all trades, if you prefer to do it the FFXIV way, you have Red Mage, if you prefer the traditional way, you have Blue Mage.

However, my experience of them trying something more traditional hasn't ended way in implementation. So who knows, those praising may also end up disappointed. At the same time, we could all be being too pessimistic and find the pay off worth it.

[xLucia]

I really don't get this complaining about Blue Mage. It's not even released yet >.< Give it a chance, people =/

[Stormfur]

I *love* how they did RDM. I want the person who designed that job to design all subsequent jobs in the game. RDM is perfect. It's not too much of any one thing, but a true support DPS. They could've made BLU the opposite -- use scimitars to do close-up damage and use your big-hitting learned monster moves far away., but they didn't.

I hate to say it but...I looked at that cane during Fanfest and thought "really?? Of all the weapons at a BLU's disposal, THAT was what you decided on?!"

[Powercow]

I hate to say it but...I looked at that cane during Fanfest and thought "really?? Of all the weapons at a BLU's disposal, THAT was what you decided on?!"

Hey now, I hate how BLU is being implemented but the pimp cane is probably the best part about the whole job.

Plus they seem to be able to conjure weapons out of thin air (he whips out a bow for the Shiva icicle spread move) so maybe we'll still see a scimitar or something.

[Roda]

Hey now, I hate how BLU is being implemented but the pimp cane is probably the best part about the whole job.

Plus they seem to be able to conjure weapons out of thin air (he whips out a bow for the Shiva icicle spread move) so maybe we'll still see a scimitar or something.

The thing is, shiva also whips out a bow.
She cycles through weapons in her fight. So that's more of a shiva thing, than a blu thing.

[dinnertime]

FFXIV's Red Mage is a really good iteration. It has Black and White magic and has Dualcast without even butchering what it traditionally is. Also it can actually participate in ALL content unlike Blue Mage.

Also I don't understand the people who say it shouldn't be a DPS or in the trinity in general because of being a hybrid. Traditionally, RDM's healing capabilities is not that great compared to an actual healer like WHM and it's more for co-support. Yeah, RDM's black magic isn't great either but the job is better used mostly for damage and I've never heard of a RDM who just heals and frankly, that sounds dumb and they should just be a WHM instead.

I hate to say it but...I looked at that cane during Fanfest and thought "really?? Of all the weapons at a BLU's disposal, THAT was what you decided on?!"

The pimp cane is as traditional as it gets for BLU. They're being very traditional with the job entirely so I'm not surprised about the weapon of choice.

[Vasch]

I really don't get this complaining about Blue Mage. It's not even released yet >.< Give it a chance, people =/

An ideal scenario but one that will never occur on a Final Fantasy message board, ever.

[Powercow]

An ideal scenario but one that will never occur on a Final Fantasy message board, ever.

Yeah let's wait until January to voice concerns! Then let's wait until 5.0 to voice our concerns! Then let's wait until 5.1! 5.2! 5.3! ...6.0! Don't worry guys, SE has never made a mistake and they always make needed adjustments super duper quickly. I mean, look at how fast Dark Knights and Machinists got their much-needed overhauls for Stormblood! Why, it only took... until Shadowbringers launch? Maybe?