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    If we function under the assumption that the voice talking in both 4.4 and the trailer is Arbert, it feels to me like it's more plausible that the first shard effectively is the future of the source due to being extremely similar, which would make simply preventing what happened there from happening again "rewriting history". I'd kind of rather they just stick to having a multiverse instead of throwing time-wimey stuff into the mix as well.

    I'm also thinking we might end up becoming the Warrior of Darkness simply due to needing to fight back the excess light and the beings born of it at the first shard as part of a plan that will spare both it and the source from destruction, with the mystery girl likely being a key player judging from her seeming presence on the collector's boxart.
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    My guess is, that we will get forced into a future or a vision of it where we have to fight through the new dungeon. At the end we might meet that child and might make the decision to switch towards the WoD. Then we get sent back and 4.5 ends. In 5.0 we will try to stop the future from happening and maybe towards the end we will meet the child again.

    I dont believe that we are truly dealing with a time skip (only for that mission to change us to WoD maybe) otherwise they would have to change the models for Alisaie and Alphinaud and if a huge battle really took place they would have to change the map of Eorzea too. Seeing how we stopped the air force of Garlemald to reach Doma on the normal route I cant believe that we are suddenly in a full war in 4.5 thus my view that this is only a vision of what could happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Don't forget the 2nd key part of the teaser trailer is to change the past which means WoL is expected to have some ability to influence and change events of the past in 5.0 to prevent the Calamity we see in the teaser trailer which most likely may be the Echo evolving or gaining that ability.

    We know the echo powers is given by Hydaelyn for the power over Soul but what will happen if the Echo has the power of both Hydaelyn for the power of Soul and Zodiark for the power of Time.
    The trailer could also just simply mean that we see a possible future and rewrite this one by changing our way in our present. Because if the WoL suddenly has the power to truly change the past and thus the future why would he not go back more in time and stop certain characters from dieing? What would be the limit to this? Also how would they show that ingame? Its still a MMO and unlike WoW which changes the map for everyone thus taking away stories, FF14 has always kept the way to see the story from its very beginning. How much would they have to create in terms of maps? I mean you have the future one, the changed one and the old one.
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    Personally, I'm of the mind that it won't be a look into time travel, per se, and we'll explore The First in order to bring balance and stability to both of our worlds. Maybe time passes differently in other worlds, and the Warriors of Darkness and Minfilia will have been there for a while waiting on us. What if the child in the trailer IS Minfilia, born into that world to help save it?

    It's been such a short time since the last Calamity in our world, so maybe the reason all these souls are being called now isn't to prevent a calamity that begins in our world, but one that will affect both us and The First if it comes to pass. Maybe we'll be able to travel between both with the Scions on one plane of existence and the armies on the other and in accomplishing our goal, will bring down the misguided in charge of Garlemald.
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    Scoot Patoot (Gilgamesh) and Nanamo Ul-namo (Lich, Balmung, et al)

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    I wonder if a new 'Warrior of Light' does arrive on scene, and usurps our title, but is actual an agent of Zodiark? So we must turn to the darkness to quell the twisted light they're bringing to the world.
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    It's worth mentioning that the Japanese title of the 4.5 MSQ dungeon (the one that is in the trailer) roughly translates to "Border Region" and that in the art for it, we see what looks to be Garlean magitek mixed in with more mundane weapons. So until 4.5 actually hits, I'm going with the idea that it's somewhere on Hydaelyn near the Garlean border and we run into someone there...

    I don't know who the voice is. I don't there there's any good way to say who it is until 4.5. I did think it interesting that it seems the voice isn't describing waiting for a specific person ("our" WoL), but someone playing the role of the WoL ("a" WoL). Given how long Ascians and prophecies have been around, that makes me think time-travel isn't the only way for what the voice is saying to be true.
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    I'm reckoning it's on the Gyr Abania/Garlean Empire border.
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    I just figured Nero was able to get a fix on Omega's location with the compass, which is where he next popped into the story at the end of Heavensward. As for the possibility of a time skip, I'm inclined to agree that we just haven't seen enough to be sure of that happening or not. I'm not sure about the feasibility of constant time travel being an overlaying plot point given the nature of the game itself from a gameplay stance, but I could see Echo shenanigans having a part in perhaps connecting the (for now) WoL with whoever the voice is, if it isn't Arbert but instead someone from the future. After all, if the Echo allows us to look into memories, who's to say it can't allow us to look the other way to a degree? The Ascians have already made a point that there's still much about the true nature of the Echo's powers that we don't yet understand. I think (calamities, Garleans, Ascians, and the balance of Light and Darkness aside) that 5.0 will also be about learning some more secrets of the Echo.
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    I don't believe the MSQ is going to jump forward a number of years because it would create a lot of unnecessary complications and there are other ways (from a story perspective) to accomplish the same goals moving forward would. That said, I do believe there will be individual instances where we visit the future/past/other shards.

    I have 2 reasons for thinking this: both the trailers and the end of 4.4 seemed to imply there's a message from the future or a warning about the past and the recent quests with Alphinaud and Y'shtola. Its a lot of technical work on the back end for them to set up playing as another character for it to only be a couple side events; I've always felt those two quests were a prelude or test for what could be an important feature of the next expansion. They could easily use that system to allow us to visit and play in other times or shards without altering what our current time is. I don't know where we'll go in 5.0 but I'm confident this will be how we do it.
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    Obviously that means Minfillia is also going to be a Dark Knight.
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    I guess it's something that could easily change, also IIRC, that's the EU/NA boxart, Japan could have Minfilia on theirs still.
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