Blue Mage might actually be a good thing.

[Duskane]

Is Shiva arrow attack ex exclusive?
but yeah its not gonna be easy to get people to farm those skills with you even all Blue mages and there "OP" kit will probably struggle to beat lvl 50 primals to learn there skills

[Kogasan]

Like I said on all the other posts like this. I love blue mage and was looking forward to it. But because SE just had to go and screw it up I am avoiding it like the plague it is now and hope SE comes to there senses and abandons ship with this whole limited job idea because it's a bad idea and doesn't fit in an mmo. MMO's are not to be soloed. If I wanted a solo job i would not be playing and paying for an mmo. I would pick up and play something like ffxii not an Mmo.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Maybe they want to do something else than spend potentially hours farming Shiva EX? What terrible people they are! Keep in mind, learning abilities is entirely RNG dependent. Therefore, it could take several attempts before you actually learn anything.

How's that any different than farming primal dogs in the current Primals? Why is that OK, but helping out a BLU is being looked at as if it's an excruciating task and BLUs are awful people for submitting their friends to that? Why are people arguing from the viewpoint that the DRK isn't playing with his BLU too and will ask the first BLU for help next?

I'm not saying people are forced to help BLUs, btw. But why are people talking as if friends helping out BLUs is some outlandish concept?

[Duskane]

How's that any different than farming primal dogs in the current Primals? Why is that OK, but helping out a BLU is being looked at as if it's an excruciating task and BLUs are awful people for submitting their friends to that? Why are people arguing from the viewpoint that the DRK isn't playing with his BLU too and will ask the first BLU for help next?

the difference is with Farming primal mounts(horses since blue mage will be stuck with 50< duties) people want to kill them asap avoiding enrage mechanics,
blue needs to wait for the spell to occur and be hit by it,
the benefit to it is the Primals and raid bosses on a script and actually a guaranteed chance for the enemy to do the move unlike FF11
but getting a group to coordinate like that is slim.
its all good if you have a couple of buds to help you but its still extremely flawed idea.

i wont be surprised when there are primal horse mount farm groups that blue will be locked out.

[Kogasan]

Everyone keeps talking about friends helping blue mages. What if say you don't have any friends who play this game and let's say you are in an FC with only 2 people. How the heck can you make a perform if you don't have enough people who would be willing to perform with you. Then what. I guess SE doesn't think of those types of people do they. That reminds me of why I don't like mmo's that don't have duty finder. Because I play this game and I don't have any friends that do and am in an FC with only 1 other person. SE needs to realize that not everyone is so lucky to have friends that play this game so not everyone can get a perform party. This also reminds me of others games I like that are mmo's but would never play them again after I realized some content is locked out to me because of no friends that play it and no duty finder in it.

[BillyKaplan]

No duty-finder

Yeah this is why it's so weird to me that they call BLU a solo-experience. Because it's not. DF lets you team up with strangers and form a party but it's something you can queue into solo and might never see these people again afterward. They might as well have been NPCs for your experience - heck, dungeons you run with the squadron are exactly that.
But a game mode that is hailed as built for solo play, and is capped at 50, forces you to go into Shiva Extreme. No df, either. That means you need at the very least one other person to carry you through it unsynced, if not 7 other people through PF.
By definition, that's not built for a solo experience.

[Alien_Gamer]

blue needs to wait for the spell to occur and be hit by it

They clarified during the live letter the blu only needs to see the attack and kill the mob for The chance to learn it. The blu does not need to get hit by it.

[kikix12]

the difference is with Farming primal mounts(horses since blue mage will be stuck with 50< duties) people want to kill them asap avoiding enrage mechanics,

If you're doing it synced, it is completely irrelevant. There's no way to skip most attacks (and those attacks that can be skipped are not something you'll be able to learn anyway, most likely) when synced. If done unsynced, there is no such thing as "fearing enrage" in there. EX primals of lvl50 take ~2:30-4:00 minutes to kill solo by Red Mage. There is literally zero reason why they couldn't wait for an attack. And if someone in a "Blue Mage learning party" doesn't wait for the attack that the Blue Mage wants to learn in the first place...kick and forget about that players existence.

[Shadowshinra]

Yeah this is why it's so weird to me that they call BLU a solo-experience. Because it's not. DF lets you team up with strangers and form a party but it's something you can queue into solo and might never see these people again afterward. They might as well have been NPCs for your experience - heck, dungeons you run with the squadron are exactly that.
But a game mode that is hailed as built for solo play, and is capped at 50, forces you to go into Shiva Extreme. No df, either. That means you need at the very least one other person to carry you through it unsynced, if not 7 other people through PF.
By definition, that's not built for a solo experience.

The solo experience part comes from the side story BLU will be getting, that's where the BLU they're not balancing shines.

Though I suppose a new player trying to get a group together at like 5.3 after the hype has died down would feel like a solo experience lol

[BillyKaplan]

Is that why RDM is the only one who managed to reach floor 200 of PotD? Was that RDM's solo play?