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    And if not get the skills directly by job quests, then something like job quests/hunting log type of thing to find specific skills that make up a basic dungeon-ready set and lock matchmaking participation behind completion of that. And apart from that we would be free to go skill hunting to our heart's content.
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    Lizbeth Nyterian
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    And if not get the skills directly by job quests, then something like job quests/hunting log type of thing to find specific skills that make up a basic dungeon-ready set and lock matchmaking participation behind completion of that. And apart from that we would be free to go skill hunting to our heart's content.
    The issue I see with this type of implementation, is that if it's baked into the current system it removes the free form customization and defeat the purpose of their design. By establishing a "dungeon-ready" set for BLU, you'd establish a baseline to build cookie-cutter builds from, and that is how you run into Yoshi-P's "Toxic community" cuz not everyone will play BLU the same as is. Also it would require a sudden addition to the Duty Finder system itself to check for certain BLU skills.

    If my concept was implemented, then it'd be a moot point cuz all the skills would come from the Job Quests like current Jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sploda View Post
    The issue I see with this type of implementation, is that if it's baked into the current system it removes the free form customization and defeat the purpose of their design. By establishing a "dungeon-ready" set for BLU, you'd establish a baseline to build cookie-cutter builds from, and that is how you run into Yoshi-P's "Toxic community" cuz not everyone will play BLU the same as is. Also it would require a sudden addition to the Duty Finder system itself to check for certain BLU skills.
    I meant it more as making sure a BLU would have access to a good variation of skills before being allowed to go in, whether they choose to use them or not is up to them (as it is with all jobs, in the end). The df would only have to check for completion of the quest/log.

    ...wait, I think I probably read your original post wrong. You're saying there shouldn't be any skills available at all except those from job quests?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    I meant it more as making sure a BLU would have access to a good variation of skills before being allowed to go in, whether they choose to use them or not is up to them (as it is with all jobs, in the end). The df would only have to check for completion of the quest/log.

    ...wait, I think I probably read your original post wrong. You're saying there shouldn't be any skills available at all except those from job quests?
    I'm saying rather than having us go out and gathering 49 Monster Skills and slotting 24, thus being too difficult to balance and being regulated to side content, they treat BLU like they did DRM, RDM, PLD, and SMN and stay true to the core concept of BLU by having you learn Monster Skills from your Job Quests. Just like currently implemented Jobs, you would level, reach the Job Quest point, do your quest, learn your Monster Skill. As this happens you'll get your core rotation established, learn your Job and how you mesh in a party, just like our current Jobs. Your Skills would still be Monster Skills, and you would still learn from Monsters (possibly solo instances in each Quest having you fight rare forms of monsters to learn the skill) but it would remove the grind in favor of allowing the Job to integrate into the systems currently in place.

    Someone who disagrees might say that "I want it to be homogenized like the other 15 Jobs" but I'd rather have something BLU at it's core, that I can play openly with my friends AND Solo via Duty Finder/Roulette rather than only with pre-mades and mostly out grinding world mobs. I want BLU to be party centric like all the other Jobs and the majority of the content in the game.
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