Trusts and squadron

[Duskane]

I just hope they are not like ff11 trust nor does it allow you to use dead,out of action,busy with story npcs

In ff11 they are soulless husk you summon with the npc personality not actually them,
I dont want to summon thancred as a companion when thancred is sneaking around the empire.

I like Excenmille in ff11 but its odd i can summon him as a child to help me fight

[Dirwen]

A healer trust is way more reliable than heals from choco companion. At least I hope so.

[Duskane]

A healer trust is way more reliable than heals from choco companion. At least I hope so.

Chocobo cant run out of MP
But a trust can

[DracotheDragon]

i feel like 'trust' is more a conditional squadrons system, for those who have to do a duty trial or dungeon but doesn't have squadrons or don't want to wait for a long time for some things (hi aetherchemical research facility) but you have a mission for it i can see the Trust thing being available then.

[Luluna]

I would like it if they just do their own thing like the companion chocobo...I find it too much arsing about with GC squadrons. I think it would be good if we could level them like our chocos also.

[Gemina]

I'm all for this if it's an expansion of the squadron we currently have. Otherwise I am of the opinion of why do we even need this? I didn't get those guys to 60 so they can sit around four out of seven days in the week like they do now. T_T

[KisaiTenshi]

I'm all for this if it's an expansion of the squadron we currently have. Otherwise I am of the opinion of why do we even need this? I didn't get those guys to 60 so they can sit around four out of seven days in the week like they do now. T_T

A brand new FFXIV player comes to the game, and somehow gets to level 15, now they're ready to do Sastasha, but don't want to play with other people because
a) They're shy
b) They're new
c) They're bad
d) They've heard about how toxic some faction of the playerbase is and don't want anything to do with them.

Regardless of why, Squadrons are not available yet, so something needs to slot into that for players who just want to play the game without involving any real people. Once that person gets a feel for the 2.0 dungeons that players cry in agony of doing anyway, they may actually learn how to play that content as it was designed, and not "the meta demands it" way.

I've pointed out before where the Squadrons break rules that players can not (eg Medica II at all levels, and are about three times more durable than the player to begin with) and this is more of the same issue. SE's solution to making the Squadrons play content was not to make them less stupid, but to make them more tanky than a fully geared synced player.

Also what if they are easily unlocked and are better than the random players? Wouldnt a lot of people just use them to run through dungeons? How would this affect the queues?

I can understand squadrons for older stuff, especially for DD players. But for new content? Shouldnt there be 100% enough people trying to do it so that they dont need them?

That is probably the point really. It's a solution to the "toxic player" dilemma where people don't want to queue because they don't want to queue as a specific role, and have only really been carried through content. For those players, they will -never- be good enough for the asinine demands made in the party finder anyway, so why not just give them something that works as a practice. After all, the raiders have been saying all along that Stone Sea Sky is useless. Just what content will Trusts be permitted in?

[Alleo]

That is probably the point really. It's a solution to the "toxic player" dilemma where people don't want to queue because they don't want to queue as a specific role, and have only really been carried through content. For those players, they will -never- be good enough for the asinine demands made in the party finder anyway, so why not just give them something that works as a practice. After all, the raiders have been saying all along that Stone Sea Sky is useless. Just what content will Trusts be permitted in?

Why just look at the worst case? I do run content with mostly randoms and honestly I barely even saw the example you gave. I mean yes there are some people that have really high standards but most that are annoyed at others are it for a reason. Honestly if you have a healer in lvl 70 content that cant keep people alive even with small pulls and good DDs and tank then there is a problem with the healer and not the rest of the group.

The question is, are the NPCs even good enough to make up for such a bad player? Because right now if you are bad you often just get carriered through content because its not that hard. A NPC at the same time might not be able to do that. So I am not sure if this really helps bad players. Honestly imo this is more for those that are sick of exactly those bad players thus want a smoother run (if the NPCs can handle all of it) which then means that all the good people might get out of the duty finder thus more bad people are left. One can imagine how those runs will go.

On the other hands if those NPCs are too good and carry someone really bad through the content then they wont learn a thing.

It also could be that runs with these NPCs dont give exp or even other rewards like stones. But then I question, why we even need them at all because people would still need to queue for content the normal way if they want to progress their character.

[Edax]

How do you guys feel about the trust system? Is it going to be standalone or part of the squdron system? Or will it replace squadrons?

Having played SWTOR that let me have companions, I would welcome being able to play MSQ alongside Y'shtola if given the chance. It can feel disappointing sometimes, having to fight these MSQ duty fights alone. SE would hardly be reinventing the wheel by adding companions in MMORPGs.

[Derio]

I just have a feeling it will be broken at the start.

I just need them to expand on squadrons. I worked hard to level them up. At least they can do is make them playable outside in the open world such as fates.