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  1. #11
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
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    They didn't made a years of developement to release BLU as what it is to just rework it afterward, especially when they insisted that much on how it work so differently than other job.

    Xpc do have other job to sell + a new race.

    They need a content to push people to play until xpac release and lets be honest Eureka don't do that very well.

    You really have to ear that BLU don't work like any other job and have his own meaning outside of teamplay to understand "Limited job" is just a side feature barely releated to the main dish that are the other not limited job and instances.

    They could have made it work like every other job without any trouble, but they'll loose the blue mage vibe they want him to have in the process. They created a whole new feature for him (and maybe other job in the future) called Limited job for him to express the whole blue mage potential they wanted him to have. Like it or leave it. I'm leaving it.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 11-19-2018 at 12:42 AM.

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    They could've just said,"There's just so many skills to add, we need to take our time adding them in," and It would have gone over much better.

    Personally I wouldn't mind learning a whole bunch of skills, then having a bunch restricted when going into group content so the broken ones aren't breaking things with the excuse of friendly fire.
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    They didn't made a years of developement to release BLU as what it is to just rework it afterward, especially when they insisted that much on how it work so differently than other job.
    I get this would make them incredibly reluctant to. But if Blue Mage is so poorly received in its existing state, they may choose to, otherwise, that year's work will have been wasted regardless, in which case there would be an incentive to salvage it. But at the same time, there has been waste in Diadem and Eurka, which had potential but were poorly received and just need reworking in the right way to gain people's interest, they tried it with Diadem and still didn't get it right and I do not yet know if Eureka improved in later versions as I could not put myself through more endless FATE trains.

    But I am in mixed minds about Blue Mage because I love what they've come up with as the job, but I just hope they don't mess it up. I can live with not having duty finder access, but my biggest concern with it is that it becomes side content, which SE has a poor track record for, see: Diadem & Eureka. If they can make it worthwhile, fantastic. But they've not been explicit on what group content will be available to a Blue Mage, whilst I expect on content stuff is unlikely, but I think I might not mind so much if Blue Mage ended up a patch behind, where the last patch content is still relevent, but not the focus.
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    It's possible the level cap is actually to do with them having to "retrofit" existing monsters Lv1-70 to work with the blue mage system. But for monsters created now, it will be programmed in from the start, and blue mage might level equally with everything else once it's caught up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's possible the level cap is actually to do with them having to "retrofit" existing monsters Lv1-70 to work with the blue mage system. But for monsters created now, it will be programmed in from the start, and blue mage might level equally with everything else once it's caught up.
    Given their insistence that this is a new job type and not an adjustment period, I think this is a dangerous hope for people to cling to. I'm not saying they can't - I'm the WoL (until they flip my goth switch in 6 mo) so I encourage hope as a matter of course - but that sort of "clearly what they said isn't what they mean and THIS is what they mean" has already caused a lot of people a lot of heartache. Sure, they've gone back on their stated purpose before, but to plan for that as a matter of course, well...

    It might change, but so far they've actively said it won't. People should certainly ask for changes if they want them but expecting them as a matter of course is, imho, a recipe for disaster.
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    the question is, will it eventually be able to do POTD and what will it's effect on soloing it be?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality View Post
    the question is, will it eventually be able to do POTD and what will it's effect on soloing it be?
    I imagine any new PotD that comes out in 5.0 will be designed with BLU in mind. The reason it can't do current PotD is because the two systems are incompatible (because PotD is based around skills gained at certain levels).

    This could be retroactive as well, but I wouldn't expect it until new 5.0 content comes out
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I imagine any new PotD that comes out in 5.0 will be designed with BLU in mind. The reason it can't do current PotD is because the two systems are incompatible (because PotD is based around skills gained at certain levels).

    This could be retroactive as well, but I wouldn't expect it until new 5.0 content comes out
    I thought it couldn't do current PotD because PotD is capped at 60?
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I thought it couldn't do current PotD because PotD is capped at 60?
    PotD can be started from 17, the dungeon system itself caps you at 60. It's all part of the two systems not working together very well from a technical standpoint. Though like I said, this could retroactively change.
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    I dont believe that they will be available for current raids. First we dont know if they even reach max level in the expansion. They only said that they will increase his level over the 5.x patches which could mean that he can be only 70 at the end. This makes sense if they dont want him in current content. If they dont balance him now why should they do that in the future? And if you have no balance then a Blue with all his skills would mess up current raids.
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