reconsider EU DC split

[Wetel]

This isn't really a complaint about what worlds ended up with my world, rather, the split in general. After the split, EU will have the 2 smallest DCs by miles (and i do mean by miles) if you look at the numbers, not only will this completely shatter the pvp scene of EU (which is already barely alive) but PF PVE will be severely limited off peak hours now. People will know this, and i find it likely for people to mindlessly jump ship and abandon 1 of the EU DCs if we get an unconditional free server transfer, because no one wants to play on a small DC if the alternative is within reach with no consequences.
It was inevitable for this to happen, but i feel like you're doing it too early for EU, alternatively, you'll allow the 2 EU DCs to communicate with each other as if they were still 1 DC so people don't have to choose which friends to remain with (and some being forced away from theirs for the sake of their static) and there should only be 1 feast ladder in EU.


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My main concern here is that this will be the first time SE SPLITS data centers, as far as i'm aware we started out with 6 DCs (one might argue that the chaos relocation to EU had the "split" effect for some, but it was stated everywhere that it was recommended for people living in Europe, not people living in NA, to play on that DC to begin with. I, and many others, just don't think the number of people on our DC (and NA) justifies completely splitting and breaking up the communities like this. Ideally you'd go away from using semi incompetent 2000 hardware as servers and instead looked towards better equipment that multi billion game companies use, so it wouldn't even be necessary to split the community up in such a simple-minded way to begin with, or you will allow the data centers located on the same continent to be able to communicate with each other as i stated earlier, and other people here also stated. I don't think this is unreasonable after ffxiv's funding of ff15+DLC, i think its time to put our sub money back into ffxiv again
Splitting the community up like this (assuming no plans for cross DC communication) seems like an incompetent band aid slap across the face and nothing more.

[Nalien]

I'll take Chaos going down every week like it has been since forever, over splitting the Chaos data center like this.

I'll take every single story instance being Raubahn Extreme forever, over splitting the Chaos data center like this.

I truly do not know how anyone on the development team could look at Chaos' relatively low population and figure splitting us up is remotely a good idea. Such a monumentally bad move... I'd rather the next Eureka Relic grind be a mobile game to content with Diablo, since we're clearly in a "Who can disappoint their fans the most" pissing contest with Blizzard at this point... What an absolute disaster of a FanFest...

If you have a problem you can use the free world transfer, whats the problem?

For one, Housing. While they offer some compensation, it's really not enough. There is absolutely no guarantee you'll get the same/similar plot when you transfer. Having your FC go poof is an issue too, more so with a House (enjoy grinding to rank 6 to unlock the ability to buy a House, while all of them get bought up...), Airship/Submarine progress up in smoke too.

Then there's the matter of friends. OK, I might be fine with moving. What about my friends? What about their friends? Anyone who has spent time mingling with the community is likely to lose someone because of this. Fracturing existing communities like this, in an MMO of all things, is just... It's monumentally stupid... All to fix Rabauhn Extreme, which I guarantee will still happen on every data center regardless, unless they change how they plan launch content and split players up with a branching story quest early, that's just the nature of bottleneck quests during launch hysteria otherwise. Meanwhile most of the recurring issues with Chaos are DDoS related which, you guessed it, this also wont fix... As far as I see it there is no benefit to this move, and a lot of negatives... Splitting the community and effectively halving the playerbase of an already sparsely active data center... It's just sheer nonsense... I'd say I can't believe the developers would be this dense, but... Diadem, Lords of Verminion, Eureka, Oh My!

My FC was watching this together in discord, and we said, during the Q&A "At least they arent going to have a 'you own phones, dont you?!' moment".

They came horrifically close.

Assuming the split hasn't already happened by then, I hope every. single. person. who gets up to ask a question at the Paris FanFest Q&A asks the same damn thing; "Is this data center split an out-of-season April Fools joke?"

Every player up on stage for the FRC needs to ask this. Everyone in the Q&A. Everyone who just happens to bump into Yoshida. Can't think of any other way for them to be made aware of the monumental mistake they're making with this, since forums complaints tend to go straight in the trash, こう書かないと聞こえない

Plenty of alternatives to fix the issues we see at expansion launch but they choose the cheapest, easiest, most detrimental to the community. Such valued customers we are, of this small indie company.

Because everyone is looking at the situation now, there will be a flux of increased NEW PLAYERS with expansion. Not just returning players.

Throwing existing customers under the bus for hypothetical potential customers strikes me as solid marketing. I'll definitely be recommending Shadowbringer to all my friends. After all, I've just lost most of my current friends that play! Need to restock those numbers in time for 6.0 when they can repeat this nonsense.

Upgrading our servers, rather than just splitting them and adding more of the same shoddy hardware, would have actually impressed me. "Oh hey, they're finally investing in XIV again, perhaps that'll carry over to the content they design and we'll finally get something new that isn't a complete half-baked mess", instead I'm just sitting here thinking this is exactly what I expect from SE. Screw the players, go for the cheap, easy option. After all, there are plenty of apologists on the forums who'll defend XIV no matter what they do. With every announcement that small indie company meme becomes a bigger insult to indie companies; Those guys at least care about their fanbase.

I don't think this is unreasonable after ffxiv's funding of ff15+DLC, i think its time to put our sub money back into ffxiv again

Sadly, that Final Fantasy VII Remake isn't going to pay for itself. Nor is the space exploration mission to find a market big enough to let that game turn a profit, because there certainly aren't enough souls on Earth capable of buying it for it to be profitable. Why on Earth does SE refuses to invest in one of their best sources of income, and instead decides to haemorrhage money on that vaporware... Didn't learn anything from XIII, didn't learn anything from XV, third times the charm, I guess? Shame they seem to have forgotten what they learned with XIV 1.0... I miss Squaresoft...

[Barraind]

I'll take Chaos going down every week like it has been since forever, over splitting the Chaos data center like this.

I'll take every single story instance being Raubahn Extreme forever, over splitting the Chaos data center like this.

Such a monumentally bad move... I'd rather the next Eureka Relic grind be a mobile game to content with Diablo, since we're clearly in a "Who can disappoint their fans the most" pissing contest with Blizzard at this point... What an absolute disaster of a FanFest...

My FC was watching this together in discord, and we said, during the Q&A "At least they arent going to have a 'you own phones, dont you?!' moment".

They came horrifically close.

[Penthea]

My FC was watching this together in discord, and we said, during the Q&A "At least they arent going to have a 'you own phones, dont you?!' moment".

They came horrifically close.

Um no. Please don't exaggerate.

The response at the fan fest towards this is what anyone would have expected. Considering SE apologised as part of the announcement for the disruption it may cause, it is clear that they're well aware of the implications of what they're doing. They knew it may not be very well received.

Blizzard, for some unknown cosmic reason, thought their hardcore pc gamer audience wanted a mobile game for a franchise that's been on pc for 20 years, and they were shocked when they found this wasn't the case.

You can't compare these two.

[NanaWiloh]

Um no. Please don't exaggerate.

The response at the fan fest towards this is what anyone would have expected. Considering SE apologised as part of the announcement for the disruption it may cause, it is clear that they're well aware of the implications of what they're doing. They knew it may not be very well received.

Blizzard, for some unknown cosmic reason, thought their hardcore pc gamer audience wanted a mobile game for a franchise that's been on pc for 20 years, and they were shocked when they found this wasn't the case.

You can't compare these two.

Hehe I was reading the forums after that went down...oh boy the word Immortal is now a meme on the diablo forums.

[Final-Fantasy]

No thanks, this is for the better, should have done it prior to SB.

[HyoMinPark]

No thanks, this is for the better, should have done it prior to SB.

Do you mind clarifying? EU is already significantly smaller than both NA and JP in terms of player numbers, so I’m curious why you think that them adding a second data center and making each data center significantly smaller with regards to population better. Because I cannot understand it just based on what I see in terms of population numbers between the servers and regions.

[Akor]

No thanks, this is for the better, should have done it prior to SB.

Than again, they dint split up JP DC's. Why not? Bc they want to **** the west. Theres no other reason than this. Especial the EU DC.

[Chooty]

Than again, they dint split up JP DC's. Why not? Bc they want to **** the west. Theres no other reason than this. Especial the EU DC.

Well to be fair, JP is already 3 DCs and they probably don't need more. The interesting part is how the new Crystal DC is estimated to have roughly the same number of active players as Chaos has today, before it's split.

[ErryK]

Than again, they dint split up JP DC's. Why not? Bc they want to **** the west. Theres no other reason than this. Especial the EU DC.

Chaos as it was would have been an estimated 120k population, making it the most populous datacenter when considering it was only one datacenter. It needed to be split.