reconsider EU DC split

[Malackai]

I am normally not really active on the forum but after last night announcement I really need to post this.

Atm I am absolutely torn. There is only a lose - lose situation for me.(and I am quite sure for many others as well)
I am on Odin with friends, FC and my house(my dreamplot that took me 3 years to get) I also have friends on Both "new" data centers and same counts for my current raiding static.

Free transfer will solve nothing because no matter which datacentre I pick I will either lose friends/static or FC/House.

SE please is it possible to look in to Cross - datacentre PF (eg. making it Regional PF instead?)
This might elevate quite a bit of issues I think and also keep the future in mind where there's a possibility that again a new datacentre will be added and again we will be split up.

Not to mention the Current EU pf scene is already slim to begin with it will just get even worse after the split as many people already have mentioned.

[Kurando]

Ideally you'd go away from using semi incompetent 2000 hardware as servers and instead looked towards better equipment that multi billion game companies use,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but SE isn't a multi-billion dollar game company. Everyone seems to think SE have the same financial clout as Blizzard or Google/Amazon, the latter which really are worth billions, but SE can't just magically purchase new servers out of thin air.

I don't think this is unreasonable after ffxiv's funding of ff15+DLC, .

You mean the same FFXV that just had a ton of DLC cancelled and SE took a massive hit to it's finances because of it? Yeah SE clearly don't have the money to pull from there at the moment to fund anything let alone FFXIV.

Not to mention the Current EU pf scene is already slim to begin.

See now this is something I always raise an eye brow about. I log in most days and see up to on average 60+ PFs active throughout the day (excluding late night time or days of new patch content), so at the moment all the scare mongering about the PF going to suffer even more I struggle to believe. Sure once the centres split, the PF will take a hit, but at the moment things are not actually that bad.

[alimdia]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but SE isn't a multi-billion dollar game company. Everyone seems to think SE have the same financial clout as Blizzard or Google/Amazon, the latter which really are worth billions, but SE can't just magically purchase new servers out of thin air.

There's no magic, they have been making a lot of money off the cash shop.

[Kurando]

There's no magic, they have been making a lot of money off the cash shop.

That doesn't mean they have enough money to spare such a venture. The MogStation cash might be for FFXIV only and nothing else in SE's portfolio, but the cash made from subscriptions can be redirected to any title they so please. For all that we know, in the long term the Mog stuff may barely balance out any losses from subs (whether they are redirected or it's just a decrease in the number of active players).

[Malackai]

See now this is something I always raise an eye brow about. I log in most days and on average around 60-90 PFs active throughout the day (excluding late night time or days of new patch content), so at the moment all the scare mongering about the PF going to suffer even more I struggle to believe. Sure once the centres split, the PF will take a hit, but at the moment things are not actually that bad.

Atm I find the current PF situation disappointing to begin with (Looking purely from my personally perspective and the times I tend to play which are evenings and mostly weekends) I tend to see an avg of around maybe 10-15 groups per floor/Ex trial. And that's with a PF pool consisting out of 10 servers.
And yes there are days that it seems fine but I have noticed a decline in groups ever since aphascape released the sigmascape tier seemed decent for PF groups.

And maybe its just because its end of expansion I don't know but but I do find it at least slightly concerning.

Still I think SE outcome should not be based on making smaller things smaller, it should be based on long term solution and looking forward to the future so that if they need to split DC again the the raiding pool doesn't take a hit again Or again watching people getting split up and getting even more fragmented across data centers.

[KDSilver]

Friendly reminder on the current situation of Chaos DC : it's very laggy, and everybody knows that for a long time.
People have asked : do something about EU DC.

Then they will.
That's a sacrifice that has to be done.

Besides, if SHB appeals a lot of new players, at least world be less congested and we won't have maintenance every 2 weeks because "well haha, Chaos crashed"

[Anzaman]

Friendly reminder on the current situation of Chaos DC : it's very laggy, and everybody knows that for a long time.
People have asked : do something about EU DC.

Then they will.
That's a sacrifice that has to be done.

People want more, without sacrificing any.

[Deithwen]

Friendly reminder on the current situation of Chaos DC : it's very laggy, and everybody knows that for a long time.
People have asked : do something about EU DC.

Then they will.
That's a sacrifice that has to be done.

Besides, if SHB appeals a lot of new players, at least world be less congested and we won't have maintenance every 2 weeks because "well haha, Chaos crashed"

If you're talking about DDOS, it has nothing to do with SE.

The servers themselves are not "very laggy" at all. Most the issues we had were due to Level 3 or DDOS, and having 2 datacenters will not change a thing about those problems.

[KDSilver]

I am not talking about DDOS at all.
We had a lot of unfortunate crash and lag on some major patch release.

People asking for the dev to do something about EU DC infrastructure isn't new.
They finally do something about it.

[Deithwen]

I am not talking about DDOS at all.
We had a lot of unfortunate crash and lag on some major patch release.

People asking for the dev to do something about EU DC infrastructure isn't new.
They finally do something about it.

The worst "crash" Chaos had was due to a power outage in Germany, which damaged the servers.

The heavy server loads on SB release and major patch were due to the instance servers being saturated. If anything needs to be done, it's on this side.

I don't think there is any major issue regarding the EU servers right now, as most of the problems we faced were not directly related to them.