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  1. #201
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    Lanntis's Avatar
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    Leif Lin
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    The last time I was this devastated was the Shirogane housing crisis (still not fixed)... I'm so glad that the roller coaster of the real world with economic bubbles bursting and no available full time work (blue mage analogy) can be carried forward into my fantasy game when I come home from... work!! No wait, that's completely the opposite of what I'm going for when I pay you a high subscription fee every month to escape reality, square!! Yet another thing I waited years for, thrown in the trash. At least they stay true to living in the real world. A daily grind, minimal reward. lol.
    (7)
    Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

  2. #202
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Yes for duty finder, dungeons and such are pretty simple anyway, no big deal there. But yeah huge NOPE for high end raids and EXs, at least not the newest of content, maybe later on when they eventually add echo they can unlock them for blue mages. I just think it would require too much balancing for devs to do so...
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  3. #203
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I'd like them to lift the "limited job" for atleast casual things like 24man raids and duty roulettes too.
    Even if they would have buffs, shields or any sort of things, the casual content will be beaten at some point anyway. Wether teamwork, gear or just skills.
    I would just propose they set a restriction about how many "offensive" skills you need to register for the duty roulette, as in you definetly cannot go in if you miss skills to do proper damage and keep up with other DPS.
    And also disable overpowered skills and heals/buffs. I can imagine Mighty guard, White Wind, Death LvX could break the game.
    All in all those Limited Jobs should not make abusing possible (think about the Ungarmax LB). Those buffs could make people ezpz get their Ultimate kills. And we all know, the more DPS you do, the more you skip mechanics, healing gets easier, less Tank Def buffs will be used, etc.
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  4. #204
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Personally, the way I would have implemented BLU would have been like this:

    > You would either keep the Blue Magic learning system as it is (which is fine), or if Yoshi-P is terrified of people getting excluded from parties when people still queue for duties as classes, have all your actions learnt through job quests. These job quests would be mandatory and you'd be unable to progress past a certain level until the quest is completed, and these quests would literally be "go farm these spells and come back when you're good, k?"

    > Blue Magic would be based on two factors - mob type and spell "tiers". Setting a tier one, a tier two and a tier three spell together in a group would form a combo. Each spell in a combo would share base potencies to make DPS easier to balance.

    > The mob types would have a bearing on the combo's effects. As hypothetical examples, moves from cloudkin could give a small Haste additional effect (think Huton or Shifu) or moves from plantkin could give status effects (poisons and DOTs). Primal moves would be finishers and hard hitting. Would anyone be that upset if Bad Breath gave a DoT instead of status effects that don't work against most bosses anyway?

    > Give BLUs Diffusion like in XI and boom, you've got a support DPS that can buff the party for a potency decrease in their skills to prevent them from getting too OP. If you wanted to take it a step further? Implement a BLU points system so that each spell has a cost to equip so not all your OP moves can be equipped at once. As another hypothetical example; you wanna use Level 5 Death and one shot trash mobs? Go for it, but you sure as hell ain't equipping anything else, it'll cost a ton of MP and it ain't gonna do squat against bosses! You want to change your spell setup mid-run? Go for it, but enjoy your 1-2 minute cooldown as it resets!

    These are just rough ideas but I'd have loved to see something like this to enable BLUs to participate in endgame. The biggest letdown for me is the fact that no-one that wants to play BLU looks like they'll be able to take it into Shadowbringers content, which is crazy.
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    Last edited by Crysten; 11-19-2018 at 08:49 AM.

  5. #205
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    BubblyBoar's Avatar
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wylantar View Post
    I really hope this thread actually changes something but somehow I doubt it will. I'm sure it's already been said but I'm not going through hundreds of posts. It worked in FFXI. Quit being lazy and just balance the class for group content. This limited job system is just going to be the place where our beloved jobs get pushed aside for an easy way out.

    We got male bunny suits, we removed greed only from alliance raids, we even got Viera. We can fix BLU.
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  6. #206
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I wanted to main Blue Mage. I even Fantasia'd into a Hyur for Blue Mage for a silly sentimental reason. Kinda sad that I can only use it for old content and only if I can get three other people who have nothing better to do.
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  7. #207
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    Kerii's Avatar
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    Rune Venil
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I wanted to main Blue Mage. I even Fantasia'd into a Hyur for Blue Mage for a silly sentimental reason. Kinda sad that I can only use it for old content and only if I can get three other people who have nothing better to do.
    According to the PLL presentation slides, it's a three fold atma grind with a coat of BLU paint and a corny rock, paper, scissors mini game, on top of not being a functional job for regular content. Honestly, I'm sorry for your loss. #JusticeForBlueHats
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  8. #208
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    Zafran's Avatar
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    Zafran Lamanera
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Im 100% sure BLU will be fun to play, and the masked carnival will be really satisfying, but this shouldnt be everything to BLU. Almost everything in this game is party specific content.

    AT THE VERY LEAST. Let us do new content with this solo job. Let me level up to max, do the 5.0 MSQs, farm new hunts and treasure maps in shadowbringers. Many of us are already sick of ARR. And im not looking forward to garuda, ifrit, and titan again after uwu.

    Please SE! Please Yoshi-P! Reconsider your limitations on BLU. We want to play woth others, not play alone
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  9. #209
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    Oraen Granfaur
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    I adore the leveling process. I adore the skill acquisition. I sincerely applaud SE for how they did this.

    Please let us play current content, though. I play 14 for the ability to enjoy an adaptation of previous iconic jobs within an MMO environment. I'm fine if you need to tune down some spells and aspects for group play. I just ask that you adapt the job's core mechanics into party play. I don't want to solo my way through an MMO.
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    Last edited by Oreos; 11-19-2018 at 02:00 PM.

  10. #210
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Also the idea that Blue mage can gain more exp off normal enemies in the world
    Why is this a blue only thing
    Why can't this be for every class might actually see people out there besides gathering.
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