Thavnairian Onion plans

[dutt]

My FC has been working on making onions for people. Thought I'd bounce off fellow gardeners here see if anyone had thoughts on how to tweek or if they could use. I don't claim its best way but been working pretty good for us.


Thanks Vidu Think I will go with this instead! StouterTaru way isn't bad either

[SannaR]

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/

Not sure if they are updated to current but one of the best places for all things gardening.

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http://www.ffxivgardening.com/

Not sure if they are updated to current but one of the best places for all things gardening.

Yea I used that to make this. The method they suggest did seem a little outdated to me

[Phlange]

Yea I used that to make this. The method they suggest did seem a little outdated to me

Hi! I'm the developer of FFXIV Gardening. You are right that the current cross diagrams for Thav Onion are pretty outdated (though still relevant). I just haven't really got around to making updated one's as there are so many different ways to go about it producing the seeds. I agree that perhaps an updated one using shard seeds and other newer crosses is in order. I'll see what can be done.

The site is always being updated with new crosses (usually at least once a week, sometimes more). We've discovered about 60% of all known crosses and are gradually chipping away at that number week by week with relentless cross testing! We have a very friendly Discord community if you would like to join as well. Not sure if I'm allowed to link it here but you can find the invite link on the website's navigation menu (http://www.ffxivgardening.com).

[Vidu]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

Without doing the excat math right now, I'd probably end up with one bed that has Jute growing all the time and alternating between Mandrake (to get Jute back) and Curiel (to get onions); and a second bed with Onions and Charmomille (for the Curiel) like you suggested.

[dutt]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

Without doing the excat math right now, I'd probably end up with one bed that has Jute growing all the time and alternating between Mandrake (to get Jute back) and Curiel (to get onions); and a second bed with Onions and Charmomille (for the Curiel) like you suggested.

Nice been trying to find a way to work jute in that makes perfect sense thank you!

[BillyKaplan]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

That's v. nice. I was looking for a way to get Onions started for my fc and I have like 40 Jute seeds sitting in my retainer. I'll deffo try this out, thanks for the tip

[Gemina]

That's not really outdated. Onions require crossing two crops that are also crossed, so it takes a really long time before you actually start getting onion yields. iirc the lead time is 21 days if only using one garden and no fertilization. And that's best case scenario where all crosses are successful, as the onions themselves take 10-days to mature. So the question really is which two crops do you want to cross?

Jute is the more profitable choice as the seeds, the crop, and the yarn all sell very well since they are used to make the nicer looking rugs in the game. Unfortunately, the yield rate for onions is much lower than other crosses.

RNG is a bit tougher to stomach when you have to wait several days for the results. Choose the least painful method.

[dutt]

That's not really outdated. Onions require crossing two crops that are also crossed, so it takes a really long time before you actually start getting onion yields. iirc the lead time is 21 days if only using one garden and no fertilization. And that's best case scenario where all crosses are successful, as the onions themselves take 10-days to mature. So the question really is which two crops do you want to cross?

Jute is the more profitable choice as the seeds, the crop, and the yarn all sell very well since they are used to make the nicer looking rugs in the game. Unfortunately, the yield rate for onions is much lower than other crosses.

RNG is a bit tougher to stomach when you have to wait several days for the results. Choose the least painful method.

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/cross-diagrams

Is what seemed outdated to me being that its all arr stuff(i think) just how I feel your entitled to feel differently. Using shard seeds and fc credit seeds seems more recent, reliable and useful for fc mates. One of the cool things is that there is many ways to do it. not trying to take that from ya. I'm not down with being uber meta so much as useful and reliable I'll remake another one incorporating jute soon

I may try with the perpetual jute loop with one bed. another jute with mandrake then cham and onions on 3rd like Vidu suggested where I'm at now figuring out how root works into it now.

It be Ideal to find a way that uses 3 beds even though we use more and make a basic guide that is a little more up to date for everyone to use. thanks for your input.

[Gemina]

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/cross-diagrams

Is what seemed outdated to me being that its all arr stuff(i think) just how I feel your entitled to feel differently. Using shard seeds and fc credit seeds seems more recent, reliable and useful for fc mates. One of the cool things is that there is many ways to do it. not trying to take that from ya. I'm not down with being uber meta so much as useful and reliable I'll remake another one incorporating jute soon

I may try with the perpetual jute loop with one bed. another jute with mandrake then cham and onions on 3rd like Vidu suggested where I'm at now figuring out how root works into it now.

It be Ideal to find a way that uses 3 beds even though we use more and make a basic guide that is a little more up to date for everyone to use. thanks for your input.

The reason why I say it is not outdated is because the ffxivgarderning.com site itself is continuously updated. I don't know how I 'feel' anything differently. I'm just stating facts to the best of my knowledge. And with that said, I need to correct my previous post because I shouldn't say that the jute route is 'much' lower because it's actually only a 1% lesser chance than the highest. It's just my own personal result of that particular cross that does make me feel that way.

Shards are very profitable too, and my gardening mate in my FC swears by it. I don't personally use this method because I prefer to get maximum yield when using shard seeds, and using seeds for crossing purposes that only take a day to mature becomes tedious and you will burn through thanalan soil like there is no tomorrow. But if this is the method that works for you, I am not going to tell you not to do it that way.

Either way you look at it, you still need to cross two crossbreed crops in order to get the onions. How everyone goes about getting those seeds is totally up to preference, but there is definitely a most efficient, and most profitable approach to going about it.